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From: Duane Ellis <duane@duaneellis.com>
To: loody <miloody@gmail.com>
Cc: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: how to debug mips or arm platform applications by cgdb
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A633726.7080502@duaneellis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3a665c760907190716s716e1102h2ce2a8e6aec2e2ed@mail.gmail.com>

loody wrote:
> Hi:
>
> 2009/6/7 Duane Ellis <duane@duaneellis.com>:
>   
loody> Would someone tell me how to debug mips or arm applications by CGDB.

duane> You need to describe your target better.

[... snip ...]

[answer: Basically a standalone board, NO OS]

duane> ....
>> In this case, 2 options:
>>
>> (a) A serial rom monitor that talks the GDB protocol (very rare these days,
>> most people use jtag).
>>
>> (b) A JTAG dongle, and software for that jtag dongle that understands the
>> GDB protocol.
>>
>> You'll need to *PURCHASE* a jtag dongle (or make one) - I highly recommend a
>> "USB based ftdi-2232 based dongle", and *STRONGLY* do not recommend a
>> "printer-port" solution.
>>
>> The "jtag dongle method" - is 80% identical to the GDBREMOTE example above -
>> but is more complicated (20%) because you have to create an initialization
>> script to setup your target board, program the cpu clocks, erase & program
>> the flash memory, stuff like that.
>>
>> A *VERY* common JTAG solution (de-facto for ARM) is:  "openocd" - see:
>>  http://openocd.berlios.de/web
>>
>> In the JTAG dongle case, GDB talks "target remote" to a
>> GDB server program running on Linux, or Windows, or in some cases the DONGLE is really a tiny
>> computer that talks the GDBSERVER protocol over Ethernet (the Zylin zy1000
>> is an example, it actually runs OpenOCD inside).
>>     
>
>   

loody> ...
> from the case you mention above, there seems a gdbserver running on
> the dongle not on the target board such that
> when we send gdb protocol from host to the dongle, it can translate it
> to the proper jtag instructions to handle the target board.
>
> Is my assumption correct?
> Thanks for your help,
>   

Yes, exactly.  Some are standalone and self contained "dongles" - ie: 
ZYLIN Z1000 (it has an Ethernet connector). Others are a cheap piece of 
hardware (few chips) and the software runs on your PC under windoze, or 
Linux (ie: OpenOCD is an example of that).

If the GDB server runs on the target (with no operating system present) 
- it is most typically a ROM monitor of some sort. The problem with this 
sort of platform is this: If your program goes off into the weeds - so 
might your ROM monitors ability to respond to GDB requests.  Example: 
You are using a serial port to respond to GDB requests. If your program 
*disables* interrupts and gets hung up, there will be no more serial 
port interrupts. GDB will be ignored.

Another variant of this is a commercial product. In the past I used the 
"ARM" version of the "EPI TOOLS" majic debugger. Which, is/was a 
fantastic package with fantastic support. Today, they are owned by 
Mentor. I have no experience since Mentor's acquisition, nor their MIPS 
variant of their debuggers. My experience with Mentor though has always 
been very positive.

    http://www.mentor.com/products/embedded_software/majic-jtag-probe/

Another variant is offered by "Green Hills Software".
And another is Lauterbach software.
(They also often include/require use of their compiler and/or tools).

-Duane.









Be


  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-19 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-06 23:36 Duane Ellis
2009-07-19 14:16 ` loody
2009-07-19 15:09   ` Duane Ellis [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-06-06  5:51 loody

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