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From: Russell Shaw <rjshaw@netspace.net.au>
Cc: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Gdb
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:29:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <453F90DE.8090607@netspace.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061025141656.GA18408@nevyn.them.org>

Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 11:38:49PM +1000, Russell Shaw wrote:
> 
>>This makes touching anything unpredictable, as there's too many combinations
>>of possible code paths that may or may not be valid.
> 
> Guess what?  The conditions aren't orthogonal _for a reason_.
> 
> I don't think there's any point in my continuing this conversation, so
> this will probably be my last message.  You continue insisting that
> the complexity is unnecessary, and yet you don't know why it's there.
> I can assure you that it isn't there just to make our lives harder.
> 
>>It's undoable by anyone not intimately familiar with the code which
>>means weeks of prodding with a second gdb. The payoff is better in
>>making something totally different and new.
> 
> Having spent many days considering this, talking to others about it,
> and even starting it twice, I believe that you are wrong.
> 
> There's a lot of payoff in starting from scratch, but (A) you have to
> put in just about as much work, and (B) you end up with something
> totally different.  If that's your goal, congratulations (I'm thinking
> of Frysk here, for instance).  But if you wanted something that looked
> like GDB...

The amount of code is not what i mean. It's the organization that lacks
coherency. There's too many things tacked on half-heartedly knowing whether
that was the right thing to do or the right place to put it. So any patches
i submit could easily break something on some other system, and it's hard to
know.

I'll cut or re-arrange various steps i've seen (during "run"), but i won't
submit any patches for months (needs a lot of checking).

I was going to copy stuff starting from scratch, but that seems a bit of
effort after trying it. I'll just evolve the current gdb a bit.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-25 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-25  7:05 Gdb Russell Shaw
2006-10-25 12:49 ` Gdb Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-10-25 13:38   ` Gdb Russell Shaw
2006-10-25 14:17     ` Gdb Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-10-25 16:29       ` Russell Shaw [this message]
2006-10-25 20:16         ` Gdb Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-25 20:08     ` Gdb Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-26  2:28       ` Gdb Russell Shaw
2006-10-26  7:11         ` Gdb Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-26  8:16           ` Gdb Russell Shaw
2006-10-26 12:41 ` Cannot get thread event message: debugger service failed Christophe Benoit
2006-10-26 12:45   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-10-26 13:31     ` Christophe Benoit
2006-10-26 20:01 ` Gdb Jim Blandy
2006-10-27  3:29   ` Gdb Russell Shaw
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-25 19:33 gdb Richard A. Painter
2002-07-30 20:37 ` gdb Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-29 13:06 gdb bemis
2002-03-22  7:18 gdb Kees Everaars
2002-03-26 17:04 ` gdb Michael Snyder
     [not found] <20011117045052.5412.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com>
2001-11-07  6:01 ` GDB Christopher Faylor
2001-02-27  9:14 gdb Mathieu Dube

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