From: John Fodor <john_fodor@mac.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org>
Cc: gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: gdb and multi-threaded (NPTL) programs
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:52:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44245A19.8060808@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060324201526.GA26907@nevyn.them.org>
Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 02:57:19PM -0500, John Fodor wrote:
>
>>"There is an unfortunate side effect. If one thread stops for a
>>breakpoint, or for some other reason, and another thread is blocked in a
>>system call, then the system call may return prematurely. This is a
>>consequence of the interaction between multiple threads and the signals
>>that GDB uses to implement breakpoints and other events that stop
>>execution.
>
>
> Really, in my opinion, it's a kernel bug; the syscall should
> automatically restart in this case. Some syscalls now do that, on
> current kernels. Others don't. It's hard to fix this without breaking
> them in other ways.
>
> In this case the syscall is sys_futex. When interrupted, futex_wait
> returns -EINTR. This is documented to happen whether the signal was
> handled or not. Maybe adding a fifth signal restart option to the
> existing four in the Linux kernel could fix this: ERESTARTNOSIGNAL.
> That wouldn't be hard to implement if you want to try it. You'd have
> to do some thinking about the semantics of futexes to make sure it was
> safe.
Sounds like a good idea. Let me know how it goes :)
>
>
>>Hmmm... so people who use POSIX threads have to put every syscall into a
>>loop, ignoring EINTR? What if it's a real timeout? Sorry this does not
>>seem reasonable to me.
>
>
> Let's be precise here: "what if it's a real signal". sem_wait does not
> time out. sem_timedwait returns ETIMEDOUT, not EINTR, for timeouts.
I wasn't referring to sem_wait specifically. I was thinking of any
general syscall that will return EINTR after a SIGALARM. But you're
right, could be some other signal.
>
>
>>Will there be a fix in the future to this unfortunate side-effect? How
>>do NPTL programmers single-step their programs today? Using syscalls in
>>loops? Using a different debugger?
>
>
> In practice this does not bother most programmers. If your application
> uses signals, it often needs to do this anyway!
>
If you use signals you can set SA_RESTART for catchable signals. What
we're talking about here is a syscall wrapper just so we can single-step
with gdb. Lot's of S/W examples don't have these wrappers. Anyway I do
appreciate you help. Thanks.
Can someone send me a nice wrapper macro?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-24 20:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-24 20:24 John Fodor
2006-03-24 20:27 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-03-24 20:52 ` John Fodor [this message]
2006-03-24 21:07 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-03-24 20:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-24 20:45 ` Eric Desjardins
2006-03-24 20:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-24 21:15 ` John Fodor
2006-03-24 21:21 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-28 9:33 ` Jim Blandy
2006-03-28 10:43 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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