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From: Andrew Cagney <cagney@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@elta.co.il>,
	Michael Elizabeth Chastain <mec.gnu@mindspring.com>
Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [commit] Deprecate remaining STREQ uses
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:40:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FDB6B1D.9000104@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190-Sat13Dec2003182933+0200-eliz@elta.co.il>

> Hi Eli,
> 
> 
>> If you are proposing a change in the current strategy, this issue
>> should be discussed (on gdb@, I guess).
> 
> 
> Okay.
> 
> 
>> For startesr, please define the ``long time'' after which it is okay, in
>> your opinion, to deprecate a platform.
> 
> 
> Three minor releases.

That would be ~18 months which is significantly longer than the current 
process.  But then again, the current process starts several (like 10) 
years later than I suspect is being suggested here.

> Supporting untested code costs resources because we can't upgrade the
> code to use new interfaces.  If we drop untested code, it will be easier
> to do work on the tested code.

By testing, you mean run through the testsuite?  Yes.

We're caught between a rock and a hard place.  Do a blind rewrite of the 
old code (which is effectively guarenteed to be wrong but will let us 
fool ourselves into thinking its "fixed"); retain backward compatibility 
until it gets updated (which is guarenteed to suffer bitrot but 
hopefully less likely to immediatly break - presumably at the time of 
the change both the old and new ways were tested); remove the relevant 
code.  At present, by doing a combination of the latter two, we're able 
to extract an extra year or so out of the unmaintained code with not too 
much effort.

> If we want to drop a platform, and a user wants to keep it supported,
> then they can volunteer to run the gdb test suite on it occasionally.

We already have the occasional but steady updates/fixes that are made to 
architectures by architecture maintainers (and others).

Andrew




  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-13 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-13 15:23 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-12-13 16:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-13 19:40   ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
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     [not found]                 ` <9743-Thu04Dec2003174358+0200-eliz@elta.co.il>
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2003-12-13 20:03                         ` Jim Blandy
2003-12-14 16:24                           ` Andrew Cagney
     [not found] <20031214062335.964804B412@berman.michael-chastain.com>
2003-12-14  6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-14  8:25 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-12-14 11:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-14 14:44   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-12-14 16:02 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-12-14 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-15  6:22 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-12-15  6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-15 15:51   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-12-16  6:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-31 19:48       ` Andrew Cagney
2004-01-01  5:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-12-15 17:01 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2003-12-31 19:56 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2004-01-01  6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii

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