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From: Andrew Cagney <cagney@gnu.org>
To: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: dynamic scope from frame, static scope from ???
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:50:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FBF77A7.2070207@gnu.org> (raw)

Hello,

(had an interesting hallway conversation)

The languages that GDB debugs, being good old fashoned procedural, have 
both a static (compile time) and dynamic (run time) [scope] information. 
  Static information includes things like the current language, source 
line, and the names of variables that are in scope.  The dynamic 
information includes things like the call chain and the actual location 
(instance) of a variable.

Given a live process (or core file), the frame provides access to the 
dynamic info, and via the frame's PC, the static information.

Conversely, when there is no program.  GDB has the current 
source-and-line and that can be used to determine static program 
information.  For instance, the break command refers to static 
information when setting a breakpoint.

GDB's slowly pushing the frame through to the procedures that need 
access to the dynamic information.  However, I don't know that we've 
addressed the case where a process needs access to the static 
information?  Should there be dogma (similar to "there is always a 
frame") that covers the static case?

Off hand I can think of several ways of doing this:

- create a static-frame (it has no dynamic state) and use that
- pass the source-and-line or block where needed
functions would get both sal and a possibly null frame
- pass some new structure that includes other info such as the selected 
language (if its different to what it should be)?

thoughts?
Andrew


             reply	other threads:[~2003-11-22 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-22 14:50 Andrew Cagney [this message]
2003-11-22 15:07 ` Jim Blandy
2003-11-22 15:46   ` Andrew Cagney
2003-11-23  4:14     ` Jim Blandy

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