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From: Andrew Cagney <ac131313@ges.redhat.com>
To: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: RFC: Two small remote protocol extensions
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:07:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D6C4C4E.4050409@ges.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020823201549.GB26809@nevyn.them.org>


> Sure.  I suppose we should clean up the interface to resume, to prevent
> all this confusion re-arising... which means figuring out our possible
> behaviors, and whether they are even implementable on particular
> targets.

The spanner in the works here is simulators.  They can't implement 
schedule-locking because their scheduler is hardwired.  The best they 
can manage is step off current instruction.

A simple version of this (PPC) (from memory) always implements 
step->schedule.  If you step I the procesor.  It complets one 
instruction on the current CPU and then schedules the next CPU for the 
next instruction.

> On Linux the options for any given LWP (at the moment, that means for
> any given thread) are step, run, stop.  All combinations are available. 
> I think the _useful_ ones are:
> 
>   step one, stop others
>   step one, continue others
>   continue one, stop others
>   continue one, continue others
> 
> And, of course:
>   stop one, stop others
> :)
> 

What is the absolute minimum needed?

- step off breakpoint / thread-hop
= using a sched lock single-step
= using software single-step breakpoints and a sched lock continue 
(Note: this is where the existing interface really falls down -- step=0 
so remote.c won't know to schedule-lock)

- continue

I think, after that, everything is an efficiency gain.  Looking at the list:

 >   step one, stop others

Hardware single-step off of breakpoint.
TPID, STEP, !OTH
HcTID, s

 >   step one, continue others

Hardware single-step.
TPID, STEP, OTH
H???, s

 >   continue one, stop others

Schedule lock.
Software single-step off breakpoint.
TPID, !STEP, !OTH (wiered)
HcTID, c

 >   continue one, continue others

Software single-step.
General resume.
TPID, !STEP, OTH
Hc0, c

 > Something like:
 >   resume (ptid, step, run_others, target_signal)
 > maybe?  Does anyone think step_all is useful (I don't)?

It is what a simulator might implement.

So looking at the remote protocol.  There in't a way of specifying TPID, 
STEP, OTH (your bug).

Andrew




> PS:
> Some day letting the user be more precise (run these two threads) would
> be nice.  I envision a day in the distant future:
>  -> Continue thread 1
>  -> Continue thread 2
>  -> Wait for inferior status
>  <- All threads stopped, thread 1, SIGSEGV
> or
>  -> Continue all threads
>  -> Wait for inferior status [maybe implicit in the all-threads
> 				request]
>  <- Thread 1 stopped, shared lib breakpoint, all other threads running

Try ``target remote-async''.

> But let's not try to design to that quite yet :)

:-)



  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-28  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-01 19:25 Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-02  8:38 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-02  8:52   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-02  9:39     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-02 12:14       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-02 12:22         ` Kevin Buettner
2002-05-02 12:34           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-02 13:13         ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-02 14:09           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-03 11:24             ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-03 14:28               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-03 15:18                 ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-03 15:22                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-04 19:59                     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-05-02 13:13   ` Quality Quorum
2002-05-02 14:13     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-03 13:07     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-16  7:30 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-16  7:42   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-16  7:52     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-16  8:21       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-22 19:23       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-22 19:36         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-23  7:24         ` Quality Quorum
2002-08-23  7:26           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-23  7:49             ` Quality Quorum
2002-08-23  8:57           ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-23 11:16             ` Quality Quorum
2002-08-23 12:39               ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-23 13:10                 ` Quality Quorum
2002-08-27 20:23                   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-28  8:31                     ` Quality Quorum
2002-08-28  9:44                       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-28  9:49                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-22 21:08       ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-23  5:44         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-23 12:10           ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-23 12:53           ` Andrew Cagney
2002-08-23 13:15             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-08-27 21:07               ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2002-08-28  6:33                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-25  8:51                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-25 11:17                     ` Andrew Cagney
2002-09-26 18:39                   ` Andrew Cagney
2002-09-26 18:48                     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-29  7:51                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-03 23:41                       ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-17 15:51                         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-17 16:19                           ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-17 16:23                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-22  0:27                               ` Andrew Cagney
2003-09-22  1:01                                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-09-22  3:02                                   ` Andrew Cagney

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