Hello, I'm looking over all the things in my 5.1.1 folder and am beginning to think that it might be better if instead just move onto 5.2. I really don't know if it is worth all the effort (well mine and a few others) of pulling those changes onto a branch. All the C++ fixes, the HP/UX host stuff and so on. For this to work, all the proposed release criteria for 5.2 would need to be droped. thoughts? Either way, there needs to be a decision by the middle of next week. enjoy, Andrew