Re: [5.1/mi] SYNTAX CHANGE? - List ``[ ]'' vs ``{ }''

[Fernando Nasser <fnasser@redhat.com>]

Andrew,

I strongly object to the use of "[]".  This will add another special
character and make things more difficult.

The output like {"1","2","4"} can easily be considered as a list value
by the parser.  The parser will need to have some description of the
expected result, even if in a lose way so it should still be able to
identify that this is a list value and not a list of values.

The {bp="1",bp="2",bp="4"} result should not be generated.  As we
currently have to share the output producing code with the CLI, we end
up generating things like this.  But I guess we should fix the source of
such anachronisms instead of changing the output format because of it.

It may be better to leave the output as is for 5.1 and see what the
parser implementers say.  If they complain, we can discuss the best
alternative and patch both the branch and the trunk.  As you said, it is
a simple change to the mi-out code.

Fernando



Andrew Cagney wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The MI documentation currently contains:
> 
> GDB/MI Draft Changes to Output Syntax
> =====================================
> 
>    One problem identified in the existing GDB/MI output syntax was the
> difficulty in differentiating between a tuple such as:
> 
>      {number="1",type="breakpoint",disp="keep",enabled="y"}
> 
>    where each value has a unique label, and a list such as:
> 
>      {"1","2","4"}
>      {bp="1",bp="2",bp="4"}
> 
>    where values are un-labeled or the label is duplicated.
> 
> [....]
> 
> `RESULT ==>'
>      STRING "=" VALUE
> 
> `VALUE ==>'
>      C-STRING `|' TUPPLE `|' LIST
> 
> `TUPPLE ==>'
>      "{}" `|' "{" RESULT { "," RESULT } "}"
> 
> `LIST ==>'
>      "`[]'" `|' "`['" VALUE { "," VALUE } "`]'"
> 
> --
> 
> Which would change the above examples to:
> 
>      ["1","2","4"]
>      [bp="1",bp="2",bp="4"]
> 
> This should look familar if you've used erlang or maranda(?).
> 
> I'd like to propose that this change be adopted before MI is enabled
> (before 5.1 is released).  The code change is trivial.
> 
> My concern is with people that might currently be using MI.  While the
> opening section reads:
> 
>      Note that GDB/MI is still under construction, so some of the
>   features described below are incomplete and subject to change.
> 
> I'm very very open to feedback.  Given that MI currently involves a
> custom GDB, I suspect that no one is using it in a production
> environment (Apple?).
> 
> --
> 
> Should my proposal to ``correctly fix'' the problem fail, I'll fix the
> problem by deleting that section of the MI spec :-)
> 
> I might also add a note warning implementors of the ambigious syntax :-)
> 
> enjoy,
>         Andrew

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