From: Andrew Volkov <Andrew.Volkov@transas.com>
To: James Cownie <jcownie@etnus.com>
Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: RE: [RFC] New gdb command 'gcore'
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 06:18:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2E74F312D6980D459F3A05492BA40F8D5A88DD@clue.transas.com> (raw)
>
> > The holy grail, of course, would be to then give gdb the ability to
> > restart the process from the core file state. That would give us a
> > checkpoint-and-restart capability that very few debuggers have ever
> > had. But that's down the line...
>
> Unfortunately in general a normal core file does not contain enough
> information to allow a process to be restarted, since it doesn't
> contain a lot of the information in the kernel which forms part of the
> process' state.
>
> There are many "fun" issues which arise when trying to implement
> checkpointing, such as
>
> 1) Open files. What fds ar open ? What's the seek position of each ?
> What about pipes ?
>
> 2) process id; does it change between the original process and its
> reincarnation ?)
>
> 3) parent process id (same question).
>
> 4) relationship with child processes (if any). Do you checkpoint the
> whole process group ?
>
> 5) network connections. Can you reconstruct them ? What about the
> state of the other end ?
>
> 6) time. When the process is reincarnated does it see time passing
> while it was only a checkpoint ?
>
> 7) signal handling state. What signal handlers are set up ? What
> signals are blocked ?
>
> 8) State of any timers. Suppose a thread was in a sleep() when should
> the sleep complete ?
>
> 9) State of other potentially long system calls. A listen(), for
> instance, or a read from something which isn't ready.
>
> 10) All the other things which didn't come to mind in the
> three minutes
> it's taken to type this.
>
> Of course it's possible to add restrictions to the state a process
> must be in before it can be checkpointed, unfortunately if you want to
> do the checkpoint from gdb it's going to be hard to know if the
> restrictions are valid, since you can arbitrarily invoke gcore between
> any two machine instructions.
>
> It's a nice idea, but I think it's hard :-( (and to do it portably is
> _very_ hard).
All this problems correct for remoute/native debugging, but how about
implementing this in sim? I think this will useful for embeded programming.
Andrey Volkov
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2001-12-14 6:18 Andrew Volkov [this message]
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2001-12-13 5:56 James Cownie
2001-12-12 16:46 Michael Snyder
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