From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id APD6KJxOsmpfNDIAWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 05:47:08 -0400 Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id 852101E033; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 05:47:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on simark.ca X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=ARC_SIGNED,ARC_VALID,BAYES_00, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Received: from vm01.sourceware.org (vm01.sourceware.org [38.145.34.32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8FC51E033 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 05:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vm01.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034484BAE7DC for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:47:06 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 034484BAE7DC Received: from gnu.wildebeest.org (gnu.wildebeest.org [45.83.234.184]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C9764BA903F; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:46:33 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 6C9764BA903F Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=klomp.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=klomp.org ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 6C9764BA903F Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=45.83.234.184 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1790070393; cv=none; b=li775e8qS8ybJqSOpl4BQtye/dvWN2Tf7/GXXTR4/aWQYBrMQ375TKsqW+SPO09BHXNeNqsKleWNs8wNaLPSIjw3++nn2bQQycEx9hTx4c+8raidIaTsQ65rbZptC1p/3Kyr0lk+pQaORuSCVtIBEMRb/XxKWnXeDhuuCx53gkA= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1790070393; c=relaxed/simple; bh=fFy7E/pR6t/JefXBPzuL583J/jE4znpf/VnFrzfQb0k=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=VhfUWNQauPgwwW0Q/NePDtUXzpXqTHgGVsg22fQbvzYbWbk9ZF80Jmj7nBFN724k6feAyku9oGGJBF0wPSrWfgkBO/z5pnMqjR2phFMDyJ3ck9mzG+tuDu3Aeio8yHEyCrYizG0MGO7ywdZw8GX3FF93OJz8SNPqxfkzaM/pKFo= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 6C9764BA903F Received: by gnu.wildebeest.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E2E23021DE2; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 11:46:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 11:46:32 +0200 From: Mark Wielaard To: Andrea Pinski Cc: Carlos O'Donell , gcc developers , glibc developers , gdb developers , binutils developers Subject: Re: Meeting Minutes - Office Hours for CTI - 2026-09-18 Message-ID: <20260922094632.GF6122@gnu.wildebeest.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: gdb@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gdb-bounces~public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org Sender: "Gdb" Hi, On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 09:55:47AM -0700, Andrea Pinski via Gdb wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 9:34 AM Carlos O'Donell via Gcc wrote: > > Posting across the project mailing lists since some developers had > > questions and are only subscribed on some lists. > > This assumes that there is consensus on moving forward with any > proposal. And second, there is not enough information in these > meeting notes. > [...] > > * Discuss on libc-alpha finalizing git URLs > > * git.glibc.coretoolchain.dev/glibc (RO mirror) > > * gitolite.glibc.coretoolchain.dev/glibc (RW for developers) > > * gitolite.glibc.coretoolchain.dev/glibc-keyring (RW for admins) > > What is the rationale for having 3 different URLs? What is the > rationale for using `coretoolchain.dev` rather than something more > specific named with gnu? > Why have a glibc subdomain? Etc. If you want and have a good rational then Sourceware could of course provide (sub)domains like glibc.sourceware.org or gnu.toolchain.dev/glibc or (in cooperation with the fsf-tech team) glibc.gnu.org, etc. backed by different VMs or services. > [...] > There is no rationale there at all; even the previous meetings notes > don't mention why. Rather just the final choices. > > This is a communication failure and a trust issue here. > > > * ACTION: Carlos to email the mailing list with proposals for discussion. Best action item would be to first seek concensus on moving forward with any of these proposals. Otherwise you risk spending time on things nobody will use or worse create a fork and split the community: https://inbox.sourceware.org/3fb85049-8d6a-4f83-a0a3-770cc385e6af@app.fastmail.com Like Zoë said we could achieve much more by working together: https://inbox.sourceware.org/7021a9fb-2476-463c-8eab-a4e254d93df2@fsf.org And there have been many constructive suggestions how we could do that. Cheers, Mark