From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8732 invoked by alias); 13 Sep 2011 14:15:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 8665 invoked by uid 22791); 13 Sep 2011 14:15:02 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from smtp11.smtpout.orange.fr (HELO smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) (80.12.242.133) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:14:19 +0000 Received: from treguer.localnet ([90.32.5.168]) by mwinf5d46 with ME id YEEG1h01r3dWW4A03EEGKR; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:14:18 +0200 X-ME-engine: default From: "Yann E. MORIN" To: gdb@sourceware.org Subject: Re: symlink old tarball name to new one Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:15:00 -0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/3.0.4-treguer; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Joel Brobecker References: <4E5F55A9.6080901@embtoolkit.org> <201109110028.37733.yann.morin.1998@anciens.enib.fr> <20110912164029.GT12670@adacore.com> In-Reply-To: <20110912164029.GT12670@adacore.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201109131614.16076.yann.morin.1998@anciens.enib.fr> Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2011-09/txt/msg00039.txt.bz2 Joel, All, On Monday 12 September 2011 18:40:29 Joel Brobecker wrote: > > First, autobuilders such as crosstool-NG or buildroot (but also many > > others) that need to download the gdb sources now choke on the missing > > /legacy/ versions. This is an issue, because existing releases of > > these tools are broken. > > We're very sorry about the inconvenience. I discussed the suggestion > of providing symlinks with RMS, and he said that scripts should be > fixed instead. The development trees of affected projects have been easily fixed (or will soon be fixed) to use the new names. What poses a problem is that released versions of these projects still use the now-legacy URLs do download gdb. This means that, until these projects do a new release, they are completely broken. > I am only the messenger, so please do not shoot me. Hehe, of course not! Plus, we probably are on two opposite shores of an ocean, so that'd be a long shot! :-) > I tend to agree with RMS, but I admit I do not know about all the > scripts out there, and the amount of work that this renaming has > created. What is the rationale for not providing legacy symlinks, when there are good reasons exposed previously that would highly benefit? Of course, I can understand that there are greater reasons not to provide those symlinks, but I really like to understand... ;-) What's important in my eyes is that the GPL issue has been fixed, and that getting the sources will get you the full sources, and a symlink would just guarantee that; plus, also symlinking the .sig would also allow for the verification, as it only signs the content. > > Second, the new tarballs were created with an 'a' appended to the > > version string, making for example '7.1' being called in fact '7.1a', > > but the directory within those tarballs are still named after the real > > version, in this case '7.1'. So it is not possible to easily derive > > the tarball name from the version string, and then the directory name > > from the tarball name. > > This is intentional. This is the exact same GDB version, we just fixed > the sources. The 'a' in the package name is there to indicate that > the problem found in those sources has been addressed. And because the content of the tarball for X.Ya is not exactly the same as for X.Y, that could be interpreted as being a new version... And again, that breaks auto-builders that used to rely on the assumption that: tarball_basename == dirname > Note that we provide an md5.sum file on the sourceware.org FTP. Which is not the main distribution channel (it's official, but not main) and is lacking the signature files, which are present on ftp.gnu.org. Anyway, thanks for [hb]earing me! ;-) Regards, Yann E. MORIN. -- .-----------------.--------------------.------------------.--------------------. | Yann E. MORIN | Real-Time Embedded | /"\ ASCII RIBBON | Erics' conspiracy: | | +33 662 376 056 | Software Designer | \ / CAMPAIGN | ___ | | +33 223 225 172 `------------.-------: X AGAINST | \e/ There is no | | http://ymorin.is-a-geek.org/ | _/*\_ | / \ HTML MAIL | v conspiracy. | '------------------------------^-------^------------------^--------------------'