From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17617 invoked by alias); 1 Jan 2010 08:02:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 17432 invoked by uid 22791); 1 Jan 2010 08:02:15 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from rock.gnat.com (HELO rock.gnat.com) (205.232.38.15) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:02:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by filtered-rock.gnat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7623B2BABFA; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 03:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from rock.gnat.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rock.gnat.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5IodSuNE477m; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 03:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from joel.gnat.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by rock.gnat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE702BAC0A; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 03:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by joel.gnat.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B484F5937; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 09:01:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:02:00 -0000 From: Joel Brobecker To: gdb@sourceware.org, binutils@sources.redhat.com Subject: time to be serious about dropping CVS Message-ID: <20100101080137.GP2788@adacore.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2010-01/txt/msg00000.txt.bz2 Hello everyone, Happy New Year! Since I started using SVN, and even more so since I started using git, I have found that using CVS is very inconvenient, bordering on unbearable. But now that I'm making massive mechanical changes (Start of New Year procedure), I am really having a hard time accepting it - Just to do a diff in order to verify my changes took 11mins. Same for the commit. Another smaller diff aborted 2mins after I started it because I made a mistake in the command line. There is no reason why every contributor should be continuing to waste more time because we're stuck with an outdated tool. I am prepared to do whatever it takes to switch to either SVN or git. The problem is that i don't know how to solve the one sticky issue of partial-checkouts :-). Right now, git is so much more powerful and fast, that I will personally focus on a transition to git. What I'd like to do is for a group of motivated contributors to form a "task force" whose goal is to come up with possible suggestions on how to transition, and then offer them up for review, with pros and cons, to the maintainers of the affected projects. Target date - I'm thinking sometime during the summer, maybe the GCC Summit? At the very latest, end of year 2010. Anyone interested, please email me. -- Joel