From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22473 invoked by alias); 19 Feb 2008 21:50:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 22464 invoked by uid 22791); 19 Feb 2008 21:50:50 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (HELO vms046pub.verizon.net) (206.46.252.46) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:50:30 +0000 Received: from black ([96.238.9.21]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JWI00K4G92CXM80@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for gdb@sourceware.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:30:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from bob by black with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRa2V-0005XM-N7; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:30:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:12:00 -0000 From: Bob Rossi Subject: Re: New MI maintainer In-reply-to: <20080219202853.GA14588@caradoc.them.org> To: Nick Roberts , gdb@sourceware.org, Richard Stallman Message-id: <20080219213011.GB5844@brasko.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline References: <20080219191222.GA10196@caradoc.them.org> <18363.14758.855327.355215@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <20080219202853.GA14588@caradoc.them.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2008-02/txt/msg00148.txt.bz2 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 03:28:53PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 09:18:46AM +1300, Nick Roberts wrote: > > The process behind these decisions is not open to me but it doesn't escape my > > attention that Vladimir is now part of CodeSourcery, and that CodeSourcery have > > at least one contract (with Ericsson) to work on Eclipse which uses GDB/MI in > > its DSF plugin. I ask myself in whose interest this appointment is made. It's > > certainly not the GNU project or the FSF. > > I expect an apology from you for this offensive statement. I am the > only member of the GDB steering committee working at CodeSourcery, and > the SC is a group of GDB contributors, not some sort of sock puppet. > The decision was made solely based on the interests of GDB in our best > judgement. A free and open society protects its users by making public its actions and intents. By allowing the SC to deliberate its actions behind closed doors gives me only a reason to doubt it. I do not support this process, and therefor default to understanding Nicks response. A natural consequence of such secret deliberations is frustration and a lack of trust by the users. So, how could you expect an apology? If I were you, I would expect more of what you just got. I think the closed process pushes us all apart, instead of together, which is where we should be. Sincerely, Bob Rossi