From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1845 invoked by alias); 5 Aug 2007 01:58:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 1454 invoked by uid 22791); 5 Aug 2007 01:58:19 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from eastrmmtao102.cox.net (HELO eastrmmtao102.cox.net) (68.230.240.8) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:58:16 +0000 Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20070805015814.NNXE2069.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2007 21:58:14 -0400 Received: from black ([70.181.32.198]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id Y1yE1X0034GV2Jm0000000; Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:58:14 -0400 Received: from bob by black with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IHVNm-0001Un-Jp for gdb@sourceware.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:58:14 -0400 Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:58:00 -0000 From: Bob Rossi To: gdb@sourceware.org Subject: Re: Posting from work/university addresses Message-ID: <20070805015814.GC21125@cox.net> References: <20070802183431.GA6833@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <20070803231205.GB11438@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <20070804200423.GB21125@cox.net> <20070805000658.GA29704@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070805000658.GA29704@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2007-08/txt/msg00038.txt.bz2 On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 08:06:58PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 04:04:23PM -0400, Bob Rossi wrote: > >On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 11:32:44AM -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > >>I know you are just trying to be really precise about what is > >>happening, but, honestly, don't worry: we're free software volunteers > >>just like you. We're on your side. We won't do anything dumb. > > > >I think Eli has a very good point in this matter. It is very easy for > >a group of talented people to say "trust us, we are doing the correct > >thing". However, over time, the people change, and other motivating > >factors can creep in. I agree its best to keep all policy about this > >matter open. If everyone is doing the right thing, then there is > >absolutely nothing to hide, right? or perhaps you are afraid that if > >the spammers know what you are blocking, then they will get good at > >spamming... > > I believe that Ian pointed you to web pages which talk about the spam > blocking. Here's one in particular: > > http://sourceware.org/lists.html#spam > > The vast majority of email received at sourceware.org is spam. We have > obviously been blocking it for quite some time. We also have blocked > certain individuals who have abused the privilege of sending email to > the mailing lists. > > Remember that you know that the disclaimer block is happening because I > mentioned it. Suggesting that there may be other motivations for the > action, that we may be too stupid to do the right thing, that we may > become untrustworthy over time, or chiding us to be open really seems > like a pointless exercise to me. Sure, whatever you say.