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From: Christopher Faylor <me@cgf.cx>
To: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>,
	paul@codesourcery.com, gdb@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Windows support in GDB
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:56:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050429165148.GD12864@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42726437.9050208@codesourcery.com>

On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 09:43:35AM -0700, Mark Mitchell wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>However, now that the patches are finally here, I have to say that I
>>sort of share Mark K's concerns.  I'm wondering if we are on a slippery
>>slope and (to mix a metaphor) will be subjecting gdb to a
>>death-by-inches as we slowly add ifdefs throughout the configury and
>>code.
>
>I think it's a funny time to get concerned -- we're done.

For now.  Didn't you just theorize more involvement from the MinGW
community now that your patch is in?

I have to admit that I've got incredibly mixed feelings about this.
After years of asking for patches, I'm happy that they are finally in.
Now I find myself mildly dreading the support aspect.

But, I guess we can see how it goes.

>There are no more cuts coming, so as long as we're not bleeding to
>death yet, we're not going to die.  Plenty of GNU software has similar
>patches to support running on MinGW.  GDB itself already has 2500 lines
>of code in win32-nat.c, some of which I would imagine is rather more
>opaque to POSIX programmers than anything we've added.
>
>We made these changes with no algorithmic modifications to GDB, no
>perversions of its core design, etc.
>
>What's the failure mode going to be?  If a POSIX person adds a use of
>non-Windows function, without appropriate #ifdef, then the Windows side
>of things will break.  At that point, assuming that people are noticing
>(which we will!), we'll fix that.

I guess the failure mode will be roughly similar to DJGPP.  Every time
someone decides that it would be nice to use signal(), select(), fifos,
inodes, unix-domain sockets, or some other non-msdos construct there
will have to be a discussion about how to make things work.  But, I
guess we'd already be having this discussion to with DJGPP so maybe it
won't be a big deal.

>I certainly don't think the entire codebase will be littered with 
>HANDLEs and ReadFileEx, or transformed into a multi-threaded application 
>with a Windows event loop in the middle of it, or anything like that.

No, but maybe we should rewrite gdb in c++.  That sounds like it would
solve everything.  :-)

cgf


  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-29 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-29 15:32 Mark Kettenis
2005-04-29 15:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-29 16:08   ` Christopher Faylor
2005-04-29 16:31     ` Mark Mitchell
2005-04-29 16:36       ` Christopher Faylor
2005-04-29 16:47         ` Mark Mitchell
2005-04-29 16:56           ` Christopher Faylor [this message]
2005-04-29 17:05             ` Mark Mitchell
2005-04-29 17:16               ` Christopher Faylor
2005-05-01 20:13             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-01 19:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-29 16:52       ` Dave Korn
2005-04-29 16:57         ` Mark Mitchell
2005-04-29 17:00           ` Dave Korn
2005-04-30 16:18           ` Mark Kettenis
2005-04-30 20:37             ` Christopher Faylor
2005-05-01 20:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-01 20:06         ` Mark Mitchell
2005-05-01 20:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-29 16:32     ` Kris Warkentin
2005-04-29 16:40       ` Christopher Faylor
2005-04-29 17:00         ` Kris Warkentin
2005-05-01 19:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-01 21:41             ` Christopher Faylor
2005-05-02 19:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-05-02 19:56                 ` Christopher Faylor
2005-04-29 16:48     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-29 17:33       ` Christopher Faylor
2005-04-29 17:58         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-29 19:08           ` Christopher Faylor
2005-04-29 19:36             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-29 22:01               ` Christopher Faylor
2005-05-02 15:41   ` Andrew Cagney
2005-05-02 15:45     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-29 16:04 ` Kris Warkentin
2005-04-29 16:23 ` Mark Mitchell
2005-04-29 16:46   ` Christopher Faylor
2005-04-29 16:50     ` Mark Mitchell

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