From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28500 invoked by alias); 5 Mar 2005 22:15:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 28442 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2005 22:15:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO demos.bsdclusters.com) (69.55.225.36) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 5 Mar 2005 22:15:15 -0000 Received: from demos.bsdclusters.com (demos [69.55.225.36]) by demos.bsdclusters.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j25MEtl5016648; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 14:14:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmacy@fsmware.com) Received: from localhost (kmacy@localhost) by demos.bsdclusters.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id j25MEtmJ016645; Sat, 5 Mar 2005 14:14:55 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: demos.bsdclusters.com: kmacy owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 22:15:00 -0000 From: Kip Macy X-X-Sender: kmacy@demos.bsdclusters.com To: Bob Rossi cc: Nick Roberts , Eli Zaretskii , gdb@sources.redhat.com, cagney@redhat.com, ezannoni@redhat.com, fnasser@redhat.com Subject: Re: patch review time In-Reply-To: <20050305220619.GA4481@white> Message-ID: <20050305141427.M49469@demos.bsdclusters.com> References: <16938.5992.336181.640228@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <20050305220619.GA4481@white> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SW-Source: 2005-03/txt/msg00049.txt.bz2 I think Bob may be trying to say that he'd like to be a maintainer ;-) On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Bob Rossi wrote: > On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 09:32:40AM +1300, Nick Roberts wrote: > > > > > BTW, 2 of the MI MAINTAINERS completely do *nothing*. They don't respond > > > to Emails, they don't review patches, and as far as I can tell, do > > > nothing behind the scene. > > > > > Shouldn't they be removed from this position, since, IMO, they are *not* > > > maintaining the code. I think having 3 maintainers under the section > > > > > mi (gdb/mi) Andrew Cagney cagney@redhat.com > > > Elena Zannoni ezannoni@redhat.com > > > Fernando Nasser fnasser@redhat.com > > > > > is misleading. Since Andrew is the *only* one I can tell is maintaining > > > code for MI, even if it's not at the speed that I desire. > > > > Hang on. Let's be pragmatic. How will things get *better* if they are removed. > > They are the original authors and know the code better than the rest of us. > > We don't know what their committments/current interests are. At the moment, > > they might contribute at some time in the future. If they are removed then > > presumably they won't. > > Nothing is stopping them from contributing now or in the future. As far as I > can tell, things will not get better with them in or not in the MAINTAINERS > file. I don't even get responses from them when I send Emails. > > I guess I don't really care if they are noted as MAINTAINERS even if > they don't maintain the code. I just want to make it clear that there is > 1 active maintainer, not 3. > > > Bob, you're not the only one whose e-mails go ignored. Answering questions, > > reviewing patches takes up time. Unpaid time. If my e-mail is unanswered, it > > tells me something: either people aren't interested or they are too busy. > > Sometimes I let it go, sometimes I realise it was a stupid question, and > > sometimes I send another e-mail and try to add something to get a reply. > > I don't really care about the "unpaid" time business. My time goes > unpaid as well, so I see it as a clean slate, we're all even here. > > Answering Emails and reviewing patches are some of the job's of a maintainer. > My Emails and patches are ignored often, this tells me that there is no > MAINTAINER that has time/interested in having another contributer improve > upon the MI code base. This tells me that there is a lack of active maintainers > in the area. > > I'm going to contribute a large amount to GDB/MI and get it done within a > reasonable amount of time, or I'm not going to be able to. The point of > this Email thread is to bring up the fact that I simply can not wait > months and months to get what I need to get done, done. > > Bob Rossi >