From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14064 invoked by alias); 16 Nov 2004 19:59:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 13757 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2004 19:59:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO walton.sibelius.xs4all.nl) (82.92.89.47) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 16 Nov 2004 19:59:06 -0000 Received: from elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl (elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl [192.168.0.2]) by walton.sibelius.xs4all.nl (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iAGJwwAZ012098; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:58:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAGJwveK000813; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:58:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kettenis@elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl) Received: (from kettenis@localhost) by elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl (8.12.6p3/8.12.6/Submit) id iAGJwlDO000808; Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:58:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:09:00 -0000 Message-Id: <200411161958.iAGJwlDO000808@elgar.sibelius.xs4all.nl> From: Mark Kettenis To: kewarken@qnx.com CC: cagney@gnu.org, gdb@sources.redhat.com In-reply-to: <419A38B8.3010901@qnx.com> (message from Kris Warkentin on Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:28:24 -0500) Subject: Re: GDB is the GNU project's native debugger References: <419A2E2F.5010602@gnu.org> <419A38B8.3010901@qnx.com> X-SW-Source: 2004-11/txt/msg00172.txt.bz2 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 12:28:24 -0500 From: Kris Warkentin How do you define GNU system? If you're looking at the OS, Linux is the only GNU system in wide use since HURD is not mainstream. If you define it as a system using a GNU toolchain then I don't see that you're particularily narrowing your scope since you now include many of the embedded systems, BSDs, some Win32 such as Cygwin and MinGW. The FSF is crystal clear on this. While some of these systems are more "free"[1] than others they should all be considered equal; no effort should be spent on supporting these systems. I disagree with this statement. I also find it somwhat ironical that the Linux-kernel developers seem to care less and less about freedom. IMHO, these days, OpenBSD approaches FSF "freedom" better than Linux. Mark [1] In the GNU sense.