It seems my initial proposal was just a little bit scary for some, so I'll suggest something a bit more sedate. I propose that src/expect be removed from the tree 7 days from now (2004-06-22 04:00Z). The version in src is now many years old. I've already sent most of the local patches upstream to Don Libes and have just a handful to go. Others have suggested leaving in support for an in-tree Expect and I think that's reasonable. Any objections? Ben