From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5776 invoked by alias); 2 Oct 2003 07:02:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 5753 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2003 07:02:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO takamaka.act-europe.fr) (142.179.108.108) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2003 07:02:42 -0000 Received: by takamaka.act-europe.fr (Postfix, from userid 507) id 3DAABD2D29; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 00:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 07:02:00 -0000 From: Joel Brobecker To: Stan Shebs Cc: Andrew Cagney , Eli Zaretskii , gdb@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: Features vs infrastructure (was Re: Tracepoint support in Cygnus GDB ?) Message-ID: <20031002070241.GX933@gnat.com> References: <3F76EC92.6010005@redhat.com> <4098-Sun28Sep2003234119+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> <3F775F6C.8070209@redhat.com> <3F784618.50203@redhat.com> <3F7B4BEC.1060800@apple.com> <3F7B9B85.50201@redhat.com> <3F7B9FEF.6070600@apple.com> <3F7BB81C.6090403@redhat.com> <3F7BC8C6.7010601@apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F7BC8C6.7010601@apple.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-SW-Source: 2003-10/txt/msg00054.txt.bz2 > That's an interesting question. Thinking about that, and comparing with > GCC experience, I'd say that in general it's just extremely difficult to > get infrastructural work accomplished in a small group or small company; > you'd have to have a sufficiently large and/or well-funded group that > the time taken by infrastructure does not affect the group's overall > schedule. Unfortunately, my own experience with large companies is that they have very very very controlled budgets and that it's hard to explain to a manager who only cares about functionality that such and such infrastructure work is going to save some bucks later if the rework is going to take more than, say, a few days. In my opinion, unless you find a talented developper willing to invest a lot of his own time, the right way to go is incremental improvements via transition plans. -- Joel