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From: Richard Earnshaw <rearnsha@arm.com>
To: "Kris Warkentin" <kewarken@qnx.com>
Cc: Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com,
	"Gdb@Sources.Redhat.Com" <gdb@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Elf OS ABI Number
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:27:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200306121427.h5CERJR20619@pc960.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:20:43 EDT." <09cc01c3303d$ca16b550$0202040a@catdog>

> > > Does anyone know how to get one of these?  I was rooting around on
> Caldera's
> > > website but didn't see anything.  I've realized that we need to have a
> > > practical way to identify QNX binaries and this looks like the way to
> go.
> > >
> >
> > A fairly common question, to which most times the answer is that you don't
> > need one.
> >
> > You should only be using the OS ABI field if you are changing the meaning
> > of the ELF specifics for a processor (new relocs, for example) which a
> > linker not trained to recognise these would be unable to handle.  It
> > shouldn't be used to represent things that are encoded in the instructions
> > inside sections (eg library calls specific to your OS, etc).
> 
> Actually, we do have a few things that are different - QNX specific
> relocations, different MIPS ABI, etc.  It seems like having the ABI number
> can do no harm but can certainly be useful. 

As I said before, new relocations is a valid reason for an OS_ABI field 
change.  However, an ABI change (calling standard) is not -- it doesn't 
change the meaning of the ELF container, which is what the field is about. 
 The harm is that a linker is supposed to reject an OS_ABI field setting 
it doesn't understand.

Is there a good reason why you've invented your own relocs?  If the 
processor vendor (who generally own the reloc space allocation for their 
processor) where to allocate a reloc that conflicts with your usage at a 
later date you might have a major problem on your hands.

> The problem with things like
> .note sections for identifying binaries is that a stripped binary can no
> longer be identified.

No, .note sections are not symbols, so are not removed by strip.  The only 
way to remove a .note section is to use objcopy and tell it not to copy 
that section.

R.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-12 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-11 14:00 Kris Warkentin
2003-06-11 14:23 ` Andrew Cagney
2003-06-11 16:44 ` Richard Earnshaw
2003-06-11 17:20   ` Kris Warkentin
2003-06-12 14:27     ` Richard Earnshaw [this message]
2003-06-12 14:46       ` Kris Warkentin
2003-06-12 14:50         ` Kris Warkentin

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