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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@delorie.com>
To: sb@metis.no
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Which version of gdb supports gcc 3.0 ABI?
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200103161054.FAA15765@indy.delorie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <whvgpavpg6.fsf@viffer.computas.no>

> From: Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no>
> Date: 15 Mar 2001 19:50:03 +0100
> 
> But the lack of C++ support for gcc 3.0 is a problem.
> And it will become a _huge_ problem when gcc 3.0 is released.

As others told here, this support is being actively worked on, by
Daniel as well as by others.

> It must be adressed in some way, I think.  And a fork sounds like the
> best alternative.

IMHO, a fork is _never_ a good alternative, let alone the best one.

> A fork doesn't _have_ to end up like GNU Emacs and XEmacs.

How do you mean ``end up like GNU Emacs and XEmacs''?  That fork is
not over yet, so how will it end is anyone's guess.

Meanwhile, we do know what it does: it caused and continues to cause a
terrible waste of resources which are in short supply, whereby two
groups of talented and well-meaning individuals work against each
other instead of working together.  With large and complicated
packages such as Emacs and GDB, a fork is a dreadful blow to the
package development.

> It could be like with egcs and gcc (ie. first a fork and then a
> merge).

This can only happen if one of the branches is unmaintained.  That
possibility doesn't seem to be anywhere in sight wrt GDB.

A fork is an ultimate acknowledgment of a failure of people to
cooperate with each other.  Can anyone seriously say that this is what
happens in GDB maintenance?  If not, I suggest that we stop even
mentioning a fork, lest someone thinks we are being serious.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-03-21 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <m2wv9tv0a7.fsf@dynamic-addr-83-177.resnet.rochester.edu>
     [not found]   ` <20010314132500.D6148@disaster.jaj.com>
2001-03-21 15:59     ` Christopher Faylor
2001-03-21 15:59       ` Daniel Berlin
2001-03-21 15:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-03-21 15:59           ` Steinar Bang
2001-03-21 15:59             ` Christopher Faylor
2001-03-21 15:59               ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-03-21 15:59             ` Andrew Cagney
2001-03-21 15:59             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2001-03-21 15:59 Michael Elizabeth Chastain

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