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From: Jeffrey A Law <law@cygnus.com>
To: David Edelsohn <dje@watson.ibm.com>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, gdb@sourceware.cygnus.com,
	binutils@sourceware.cygnus.com, autoconf@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: PA64 configure issues
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 12:20:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11722.956686264@upchuck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200004251814.OAA28140@mal-ach.watson.ibm.com>

  In message < 200004251814.OAA28140@mal-ach.watson.ibm.com >you write:
  > 	Geoff gave the background on 64-bit AIX support which can support
  > both modes with a single toolchain, defaulting to 32-bit mode.  This also
  > happens to be the way that the AIX product compilers operate, so the two
  > are consistent.
Good.

  > 	The above line in your original message jumps out at me.  Are you
  > saying that you must build an entirely separate compiler for PA64?  Also,
  > you did not mention how HP's commercial toolchain operates/defaults.
Yes, we have to build a separate toolchain.  Among other things PA32 and PA64
use completely different object file formats (SOM & ELF respectively) one
supports gnu-ld (PA64) the other will never support gnu-ld (PA32).  There's
other issues, but those are the two biggest.

HP's tools work by having a front-end which invisibly fires up the appropriate
32bit or 64bit tool based on runtime flags.  

  > 	I would agree that defaulting to 32-bit mode, even on 64-bit
  > hardware, is the best choice when the hardware can support both modes. 
OK.

  > If
  > the user needs to configure and build a completely separate toolchain for
  > 64-bit mode, that is much more cumbersome than the AIX toolchain.
Yup.  And that's the root of the problem I'm trying to resolve.

  > If HP's
  > toolchain defaults differently, I think that you need to consider
  > user-interface compatibility as well.
I don't think we're going to have that kind of compatibility.  At least not
at this stage.


jeff


       reply	other threads:[~2000-04-25 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200004251814.OAA28140@mal-ach.watson.ibm.com>
2000-04-25 12:20 ` Jeffrey A Law [this message]
     [not found] <11276.956679822@upchuck>
2000-04-25 13:52 ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found] <20378.956845658@upchuck>
2000-04-27 11:00 ` Alexandre Oliva
2000-04-27 11:09   ` Jeffrey A Law
2000-04-27 11:37     ` Alexandre Oliva
2000-04-27 13:26       ` Jeffrey A Law

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