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From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb <gdb@sourceware.org>
To: Peter Bergner <bergner@tenstorrent.com>,
	Sachin Monga <smonga@linux.ibm.com>,
	libc-help@sourceware.org,
	"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	gdb@sourceware.org
Cc: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>,
	Surya Kumari Jangala <jskumari@linux.ibm.com>,
	Carl Love <cel@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: gdb does not stop at printf for ppc
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 14:20:11 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0535055f-7a42-4390-b134-34b8e3ee657e@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b795f509-4bf4-4908-9ad9-3163da998cd0@tenstorrent.com>



On 01/10/25 01:03, Peter Bergner via Libc-help wrote:
> Adding Carl, Mike, Segher and Surya to the CC for their input, so I'm
> leaving Sachin's entire question for them to see.
> 
> I'm also CCing the libc-alpha and GDB lists for wider exposure, since
> this is an actual BUG.  My reply is at the end of Sachin's questions.
> 
> 
> On 9/25/25 2:47 AM, Sachin Monga wrote:
>> Hi Stewards
>>
>>
>> Summary:
>>
>> There is a test case in GDB where printf is getting converted into 
>> __printfieee128 when program is compiled with "--no-builtin" flag.
>> The program is working fine on a machine with glibc 2.34, but not on 
>> another machine where glibc 2.40 is installed.
>>
>>
>> Test program:
>> $ cat test.c
>> #include <stdio.h>
>>
>> int
>> main ()
>> {
>>    printf ("Hello World!\n");
>>    return 0;
>> }
>>
>> GDB operation:
>> 1. Load the binary
>> 2. Break main
>> 3. Run
>> 4. Once program stops at main, then Break printf
>> 5. Continue
>>
>> Expected ouput: GDB should stop at printf function
>>
>> Actual Output on Machine1(with glibc 2.34) : GDB stop at printf symbol
>>
>> Actual Output on Machine2(with glibc 2.40) : GDB does NOT stop at printf 
>> symbol
>>
>>
>> Analysis:
>> Glibc debug package with source is required. Once it is installed.
>> Then program is working fine with glibc 2.34, but not where glibc 2.40 
>> is installed.
>>
>>
>> 1. Install debug info package for glibc
>> sudo dnf debuginfo-install glibc
>>
>> Machine1: glibc packages
>> $ rpm -q glibc glibc-debuginfo glibc-debugsource
>> glibc-2.34-168.el9_6.23.ppc64le
>> glibc-debuginfo-2.34-168.el9_6.23.ppc64le
>> glibc-debugsource-2.34-168.el9_6.23.ppc64le
>>
>>
>>
>> Machine2: glibc 2.40 packages
>> $ rpm -q glibc glibc-debuginfo glibc-debugsource
>> glibc-2.40-28.fc41.ppc64le
>> glibc-debuginfo-2.40-28.fc41.ppc64le
>> glibc-debugsource-2.40-28.fc41.ppc64le
>> ~/GDB/latest_gdb/print$
>>
>>
>> I execute additional program to check behaviour in both the machine
>>
>> $] cat test_print_map.c
>> #include <stdio.h>
>>
>> int main(void) {
>>      printf("Hello World!\n");
>>
>>      // Print address of printf and its ieee128 variant
>>      printf("Address of printf:        %p\n", (void*)printf);
>> #ifdef __GLIBC__
>>      extern int __printfieee128(const char *, ...);
>>      printf("Address of __printfieee128: %p\n", (void*)__printfieee128);
>> #endif
>>
>>      return 0;
>> }
>>
>> Compilation
>> gcc -O0 -g -o test_print_map test_print_map.c --no-builtin
>>
>>
>> Machine 2 (with glibc 2.40)
>> $ ./test_printf_map
>> Hello World!
>> Address of printf:        0x7fff806870c0  <---- Same address
>> Address of __printfieee128: 0x7fff806870c0        <------ Same address
>> Abhay@ltcd97-lp3:~/GDB/latest_gdb/print$
>>
>>
>> Machine1 (with glibc 2.34)
>> $ ./test_printf_map
>> Hello World!
>> Address of printf:        0x20002a066980  <-------- Different address
>> Address of __printfieee128: 0x20002a082e80     <-------- Different address
>> [abhay@kubota print]$
>>
>>
>> Based on above output, my assumption are (may be it is not 100% true):
>> Here, the compiler + linker decide how to bind the symbol:
>>
>> In glibc 2.40 :
>> printf is just a strong alias to __printfieee128, so both resolve to the 
>> same address at link time.
>>
>> In glibc 2.34 :
>> printf lives at a different symbol table entry than __printfieee128.
>> May be two different definitions or pointing to IO_printf(). I am not sure.
>>
>>
>> So the query is why gdb is not able to stop at printf symbol where glibc 
>> 2.40 is installed ? Is this a bug in glibc or I am missing something ?
>>
>>
>> Regards:
>> Sachin.
> 
> 
> There is actually a GLIBC bugzilla about this and it's not just printf,
> but all IEEE 128-bit floating point functions.  I've assigned it to you now! :-)
> I don't remember if the solution in Carl's last comment was actually decided
> to be the correct way to "fix" this though:
> 
>   https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29989
> 
> 
> My guess is the difference between your two systems, is that the newer
> system's gcc was built with --with-long-double-format=ieee which causes
> gcc to enable -mabi=ieeelongdouble by default, meaning "long double"
> is equal to IEEE128 instead of the older -mabi=ibmlongdouble usage,
> where "long double" is equal to the IBM128/IBM double-double format.
> With -mabi=ibmlongdouble, calls to printf() are directed at the printf
> symbol in glibc.  With -mabi=ieeelongdouble, gcc remaps printf() calls
> to the __printfieee128 symbol in glibc.  I don't think symbol versioning
> would have helped here, since we have to handle calls to both the old
> and new printf symbols.  I'll let Mike correct me if I'm wrong. :-)
> 
> Obviously, we don't want to make users have to say "break __printfieee128"
> in gdb, but rather "break printf" should set breakpoints on both printf and
> __printfieee128.  The best way to accomplish that though...I'm not sure
> we decided that.  Ie, can we fix this in GLIBC or add a workaround in GDB?
> 
> Mike, Segher, Carl, Surya or anyone else, anything else to add?
> 
> Peter

This is not only an issue for IBM float128 support, but rather for other places
that we use asm alias (for instance 64 bit time support on some 32 bits abis,
fortify support for some symbols that route to _chk variants, etc.).

And I think Carl's suggestion might work [1], with the following:

---
diff --git a/sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-128ibm-compat/ieee128-printf.c b/sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-128ibm-compat/ieee128-printf.c
index 7b1640ceac..d567d98c68 100644
--- a/sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-128ibm-compat/ieee128-printf.c
+++ b/sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-128ibm-compat/ieee128-printf.c
@@ -33,3 +33,6 @@ ___ieee128_printf (const char *format, ...)
   return done;
 }
 strong_alias (___ieee128_printf, __printfieee128)
+
+asm (".local printf\n"
+     ".set printf, __printfieee128");
---

Breaking point at printf does work:

---
$ cat printf.c
#include <stdio.h>

int main (int argc, char *argv[])
{
  printf ("%La\n", 1.2345L);
}
$ powerpc64le-glibc-linux-gnu-gcc -mabi=ieeelongdouble printf.c -o printf
$ gdb -ex 'set breakpoint pending on' -ex 'b printf' -ex 'r' ./tst-printf-ieeelongdouble
[...]
Breakpoint 1.2, 0x00007ffff7c92528 in ___ieee128_printf (format=format@entry=0x100000d88 "%La\n") at ../sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-128ibm-compat/ieee128-printf.c:24
24      {
---

I don't think we have a better solution, attribute (alias) requires the
target symbol to be pre-defined (which would require to reestructure how
the long double alias as done); nor I think the compiler will be able to
easy synthesize it because afaiu this need to done at the TU of the
alternative implementation.

Do we have the concept of symbol aliases for DWARF?


[1] https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29989#c4



  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-01 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <f4e905f7-48cb-439a-a8e6-a50242c18e6a@linux.ibm.com>
2025-10-01  4:03 ` Peter Bergner via Gdb
2025-10-01 17:20   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb [this message]
2025-10-02 15:57     ` [EXT] " Peter Bergner via Gdb
2025-10-02 16:19       ` Carl Love via Gdb
2025-10-02 16:58       ` Florian Weimer via Gdb
2025-10-02 18:12         ` Peter Bergner via Gdb
2025-10-02 18:49           ` Billie Alsup (balsup) via Gdb
2025-10-02 19:09             ` Peter Bergner via Gdb
2025-10-03 19:43     ` Tom Tromey
2025-10-07 17:21       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto via Gdb
2025-10-15 14:33         ` [EXT] " Peter Bergner via Gdb
2025-10-15 17:09           ` Sachin Monga via Gdb
2025-11-05  6:00             ` Sachin Monga via Gdb
2025-11-06  4:13               ` Peter Bergner via Gdb

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