From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
Cc: drow@false.org, dave.korn@artimi.com, kostik@ispras.ru,
gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: MI output command error
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:23:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01c526ed$Blat.v2.4$2b933720@zahav.net.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16946.4725.343793.980977@farnswood.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:49:41 +1300)
> From: Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>
> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:49:41 +1300
> Cc: Dave Korn <dave.korn@artimi.com>,
> Karganov Konstantin <kostik@ispras.ru>, GDB <gdb@sources.redhat.com>
>
> > Lack of implementation. No one's done the work.
>
> Thats understandable. However, given that MI was introduced in GDB 5.0, I
> think there should be something in the manual explaining this as it seems to
> create a lot of confusion. It needs to be written by someone who understands
> the issue i.e not myself.
I'm all for documenting this in some useful way, but I fail to see how
could this be done. Describing the async operation itself is already
a big challenge, as the details are extremely confusing, unless you've
read the code several times and have a good understanding of the
underlying system calls (like `poll' and `select'). Differences
between interpreters add another dimension of complexity to this.
> I believe that operation is asynchronous with certain targets,
> although I have never managed to create these conditions, even with
> gdbserver over TCP.
Actually, I think that the asynchronous operation is independent of
the target. The infrastructure for this is in event-loop.c, which is
not specific to any target.
The problem with implementing async operation with the CLI interface
is, AFAIU, not its dependence on some target-specific feature, but
rather the need to redesig the CLI front end to do something useful
while waiting for a prolonged operation to run to completion. For GUI
front ends, such as those who use MI, it's clear what to do during
that time, and the separate-process implementation makes it even
easier to design. By contrast, the CLI interface is part of the GDB
process.
I don't consider myself a specialist in these matters, so please take
the above with a grain of salt (i.e., it might all be wrong ;-).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-12 10:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-11 21:05 Nick Roberts
2005-03-11 21:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-11 21:36 ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-11 21:39 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-11 21:52 ` Nick Roberts
2005-03-12 10:23 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-03-13 9:36 ` Nick Roberts
2005-03-13 15:40 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-13 20:22 ` Nick Roberts
2005-03-13 20:25 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-13 23:33 ` Nick Roberts
2005-03-13 23:38 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-13 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-14 7:16 ` Peter D HUERTER
[not found] <1110656346.18541.ezmlm@sources.redhat.com>
2005-03-14 19:11 ` Jim Ingham
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-09 2:40 Bob Rossi
2005-03-09 23:22 ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-10 9:33 ` Re[2]: " Konstantin Karganov
2005-03-10 13:06 ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-10 13:43 ` Karganov Konstantin
2005-03-10 14:01 ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-10 14:15 ` Karganov Konstantin
2005-03-10 14:40 ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-10 15:13 ` Karganov Konstantin
2005-03-10 15:52 ` Dave Korn
2005-03-10 16:09 ` 'Bob Rossi'
2005-03-10 16:13 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-10 17:44 ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-10 17:52 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-10 20:48 ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-10 21:10 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-10 21:25 ` Bob Rossi
2005-03-10 16:23 ` Dave Korn
2005-03-10 16:34 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-03-10 16:48 ` Dave Korn
2005-03-10 17:03 ` 'Bob Rossi'
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