From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28409 invoked by alias); 5 May 2011 15:29:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 28328 invoked by uid 22791); 5 May 2011 15:29:09 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (209.132.183.28) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:28:51 +0000 Received: from int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p45FSnxm011690 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 5 May 2011 11:28:49 -0400 Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p45FSnIJ030362; Thu, 5 May 2011 11:28:49 -0400 Received: from opsy.redhat.com (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.9.1]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p45FSmj1004837; Thu, 5 May 2011 11:28:48 -0400 Received: by opsy.redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 45EBF3784C3; Thu, 5 May 2011 09:28:48 -0600 (MDT) From: Tom Tromey To: Petr =?utf-8?Q?Hluz=C3=ADn?= Cc: paawan oza , gdb@sourceware.org, gdb-patches@sourceware.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm reversible : References: <341905.10459.qm@web112513.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <208397.95006.qm@web112517.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DA27006.1080607@codesourcery.com> <763549.92092.qm@web112506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <335149.24692.qm@web112515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <592215.58786.qm@web112508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <172713.29831.qm@web112503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 15:29:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: ("Petr =?utf-8?Q?Hluz=C3=ADn=22's?= message of "Wed, 4 May 2011 23:23:43 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2011-05/txt/msg00137.txt.bz2 >>>>> "Petr" =3D=3D Petr Hluz=C3=ADn writes: Petr> I investigated the patch because I am interested reversible debugging. Petr> However I barely work on GDB. I would be mostly interested in Petr> polishing, removing rough corners and making tiny things work right. Petr> But I feel that real hackers here do not like making tools nice to Petr> use; or making things work for those who are not already experts; for Petr> people who expect their tools to know their job without requiring Petr> user's supervision, etc. I can understand why you think this. I have two things to suggest here. First, in my experience with GDB, changes to the CLI are one of the most hotly debated areas -- both what the user types and also what GDB prints. You can see any number of discussions about this in the archives. So, I think us developers do pay attention -- but maybe a funny kind of attention, as we're used to the quirks of GDB CLI and expect additions to be faithful to its traditions. Second, feel free to comment on changes. We try to make GDB as good as we know how, but nobody has a monopoly on good ideas. Tom