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From: "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>
To: Jiong Wang <jiong.wang@foss.arm.com>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	mjw@tucnak.zalov.cz
Cc: gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org, Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [1/9][RFC][DWARF] Reserve three DW_OP numbers in vendor extension space
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:25:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ceb9dfac-9f94-0d78-7f3f-8f9e0a2abb66@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5896be40-51de-55f7-f4a1-4c5af7ff9aec@foss.arm.com>

On 15/11/16 16:48, Jiong Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 15/11/16 16:18, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 04:00:40PM +0000, Jiong Wang wrote:
>>>>>    Takes one signed LEB128 offset and retrieves 8-byte contents
>>>>> from the address
>>>>>    calculated by CFA plus this offset, the contents then
>>>>> authenticated as per A
>>>>>    key for instruction pointer using current CFA as salt. The
>>>>> result is pushed
>>>>>    onto the stack.
>>>> I'd like to point out that especially the vendor range of DW_OP_* is
>>>> extremely scarce resource, we have only a couple of unused values,
>>>> so taking
>>>> 3 out of the remaining unused 12 for a single architecture is IMHO
>>>> too much.
>>>> Can't you use just a single opcode and encode which of the 3
>>>> operations it is
>>>> in say the low 2 bits of a LEB 128 operand?
>>>> We'll likely need to do RSN some multiplexing even for the generic GNU
>>>> opcodes if we need just a few further ones (say 0xff as an extension,
>>>> followed by uleb128 containing the opcode - 0xff).
>>>> In the non-vendor area we still have 54 values left, so there is
>>>> more space
>>>> for future expansion.
>>>    Seperate DWARF operations are introduced instead of combining all
>>> of them into
>>> one are mostly because these operations are going to be used for most
>>> of the
>>> functions once return address signing are enabled, and they are used for
>>> describing frame unwinding that they will go into unwind table for
>>> C++ program
>>> or C program compiled with -fexceptions, the impact on unwind table
>>> size is
>>> significant.  So I was trying to lower the unwind table size overhead
>>> as much as
>>> I can.
>>>
>>>    IMHO, three numbers actually is not that much for one architecture
>>> in DWARF
>>> operation vendor extension space as vendors can overlap with each
>>> other.  The
>>> only painful thing from my understand is there are platform vendors,
>>> for example
>>> "GNU" and "LLVM" etc, for which architecture vendor can't overlap with.
>> For DW_OP_*, there aren't two vendor ranges like e.g. in ELF, there is
>> just
>> one range, so ideally the opcodes would be unique everywhere, if not,
>> there
>> is just a single GNU vendor, there is no separate range for Aarch64, that
>> can overlap with range for x86_64, and powerpc, etc.
>>
>> Perhaps we could declare that certain opcode subrange for the GNU
>> vendor is
>> architecture specific and document that the meaning of opcodes in that
>> range
>> and count/encoding of their arguments depends on the architecture, but
>> then
>> we should document how to figure out the architecture too (e.g. for ELF
>> base it on the containing EM_*).  All the tools that look at DWARF
>> (readelf,
>> objdump, eu-readelf, libdw, libunwind, gdb, dwz, ...) would need to
>> agree on that
>> though.
>>
>> I know nothing about the aarch64 return address signing, would all 3
>> or say
>> 2 usually appear together without any separate pc advance, or are they
>> all
>> going to appear frequently and at different pcs?
> 
>   I think it's the latter, the DW_OP_AARCH64_paciasp and
> DW_OP_AARCH64_paciasp_deref are going to appear frequently and at
> different pcs.
>     For example, the following function prologue, there are three
> instructions
> at 0x0, 0x4, 0x8.
> 
>   After the first instruction at 0x0, LR/X30 will be mangled.  The
> "paciasp" always
> mangle LR register using SP as salt and write back the value into LR. 
> We then generate
> DW_OP_AARCH64_paciasp to notify any unwinder that the original LR is
> mangled in this
> way so they can unwind the original value properly.
> 
>   After the second instruction at 0x4, The mangled value of LR/X30 will
> be pushed on
> to stack, unlike usual .cfi_offset, the unwind rule for LR/X30 becomes:
> first fetch the
> mangled value from stack offset -16, then do whatever to restore the
> original value
> from the mangled value.  This is represented by
> (DW_OP_AARCH64_paciasp_deref, offset).
> 
>         .cfi_startproc
>    0x0  paciasp (this instruction sign return address register LR/X30)
>         .cfi_val_expression 30, DW_OP_AARCH64_paciasp
>    0x4  stp     x29, x30, [sp, -32]!
>         .cfi_val_expression 30, DW_OP_AARCH64_paciasp_deref, -16
>         .cfi_offset 29, -32
>         .cfi_def_cfa_offset 32
>    0x8  add     x29, sp, 0
> 

Now I'm confused.

I was thinking that we needed one opcode for the sign operation in the
prologue and one for the unsign/validate operation in the epilogue (to
support non-call exceptions.  But why do we need a separate code to say
that a previously signed value has now been pushed on the stack?  Surely
that's just a normal store operation that can be tracked through the
unwinding state machine.

I was expecting the third opcode to be needed for the special operations
that are not frequently used by the compiler.

R.

>> Perhaps if there is just 1
>> opcode and has all the info encoded just in one bigger uleb128 or
>> something
>> similar...
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-15 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <c9da17a6-c3de-4466-c023-4e4ddbe38efb@foss.arm.com>
2016-11-11 18:22 ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-11 19:39   ` Jakub Jelinek
2016-11-15 16:00     ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-15 16:18       ` Jakub Jelinek
2016-11-15 16:48         ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-15 19:25           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists) [this message]
2016-11-16 10:00             ` Jiong Wang
     [not found]               ` <1479304496.14569.256.camel@redhat.com>
2016-11-16 14:02                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2016-11-30 11:15                   ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-30 18:25                     ` Yao Qi
2016-12-12 13:40                     ` [Ping~][1/9][RFC][DWARF] " Jiong Wang
2016-12-19 13:59                       ` [Ping^2][1/9][RFC][DWARF] " Jiong Wang
2016-12-28 18:21                         ` [Ping^3][1/9][RFC][DWARF] " Jiong Wang
2016-12-28 19:54                     ` [1/9][RFC][DWARF] " Cary Coutant
2017-01-03  9:32                       ` Jiong Wang
2017-01-03 10:10                       ` Jiong Wang
2017-01-03 10:57                         ` Yao Qi
2017-01-03 15:21                           ` Nick Clifton
2017-01-03 17:47                             ` Yao Qi
2016-11-30 21:44                   ` Cary Coutant
2016-12-01 10:42                     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2016-12-01 11:09                       ` Jiong Wang
2016-11-15 16:51         ` Jiong Wang
2016-12-28 19:48     ` Cary Coutant

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