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From: "Richard Earnshaw (foss)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: simark@simark.ca, tom@tromey.com, tdevries@suse.de,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [gdb/python] Use PyConfig for python 3.9
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 17:53:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cdbd3988-3ab5-4c08-926c-7764ad7c7da0@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86seejrwpg.fsf@gnu.org>

On 12/11/2025 17:23, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 16:52:13 +0000
>> Cc: tom@tromey.com, tdevries@suse.de, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>> From: "Richard Earnshaw (foss)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>
>>
>>> Btw, the problem is not the system where GDB is compiled, the problem
>>> is the system on which it runs.
>>
>> So how long are we expected to support such an antiquated system?
> 
> I think that depends on what is required to "support" them.  That's
> what we should talk about, and in practical terms.  E.g., if all
> that's required is not to delete compatibility code (and I'm not
> saying that's all, I'm just giving an example), it is my opinion that
> the effort is negligible.
> 
>> It's already 11 years beyond it's final maintenance update and continuing to pretend we can support it is clearly holding up development of gdb.
> 
> But does it hold development?  If it does, let's identify where it
> does and talk about that, and maybe we will then decide that the
> effort is too much.
> 

Well if it hinders developments like:
- switching to the python limited API
- removing the need to test against multiple python run-times
- removing the need for users to install a specific version of python rather than reuse the version they already have installed

then yes it does.

>> If the runtime can't support critical improvements of gdb, then surely it's time to reconsider our priorities.
> 
> Yes, "if".  The issue, once again, is whether this "if" indeed
> materializes.  That's what I suggest to discuss.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-12 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-17 13:36 Tom de Vries
2025-10-17 14:13 ` Tom Tromey
2025-10-17 15:11   ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-10-17 16:33     ` Tom Tromey
2025-10-17 18:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-10-31 18:15         ` Tom Tromey
2025-11-01  7:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-11-03 17:09             ` Simon Marchi
2025-11-03 18:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-11-12 16:52                 ` Richard Earnshaw (foss)
2025-11-12 17:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-11-12 17:53                     ` Richard Earnshaw (foss) [this message]
2025-11-12 18:03                     ` Arsen Arsenović
2025-11-12 18:20                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-11-12 19:24                         ` Arsen Arsenović
2025-11-13  5:45                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-10-17 16:51     ` Arsen Arsenović
2025-10-17 18:35       ` Eli Zaretskii

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