From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
To: Andy Chiu <andy.chiu@sifive.com>
Cc: Greg Savin <greg.savin@sifive.com>,
Greentime Hu <greentime.hu@sifive.com>,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, gdb-patches@sourceware.org,
Andrew Burgess <andrew.burgess@embecosm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RISC-V: support for vector register accesses via ptrace() in RISC-V Linux native
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 12:40:12 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2308101231560.25915@angie.orcam.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230810103510.GA2509@hsinchu26>
On Thu, 10 Aug 2023, Andy Chiu wrote:
> > > The SIGILL guard is being used as a wrapper around determination of the
> > > VLENB CSR, which is not part of the ptrace() payload for vector registers,
> > > at least as it exists at head-of-tree Linux kernel. GDB or gdbserver
> > > needs to know VLENB in order to construct the architectural feature
> > > metadata that reports an accurate width for the vector registers. If not
> > > for the VLENB determination specifically, and the lack of this information
> > > via ptrace(), then there would be no motivation for executing a vector
> > > instruction directly. It's a workaround, basically. I guess I could
> > > inquire in Linux kernel land regarding whether the NT_RISCV_VECTOR ptrace()
> > > payload could be enhanced to provide VLENB.
> >
> > I think the kernel interface needs to be clarified first, before we can
> > proceed with the tools side.
> >
> > I can see the vector state is carried in a REGSET_V regset, which in turn
> > corresponds to an NT_RISCV_VECTOR core file note. I can see that besides
> > the vector data registers only the VSTART, VL, VTYPE, and VCSR vector CSRs
> > are provided in that regset, and that vector data registers are assigned
> > a contiguous space of (32 * RISCV_MAX_VLENB) bytes rather than individual
> > slots.
> >
> > So how are we supposed to determine the width of the vector registers
> > recorded in a core file? I'd say the RISC-V/Linux kernel regset API is
> > incomplete.
>
> Does it make sense to you if we encapsulate this with a hwprobe syscall?
> e.g provide a hwprobe entry to get system's VLENB. We will have to
> increase and rearrange the buffer for NT_RISCV_VECTOR if we want to use
> ptrace as the entry point for this purpose. I am not very sure if it'd be
> too late to do though.
No, how do you expect it to work with a core dump (that can be examined
on a different system, or with a cross-debugger)? You need to change the
API I'm afraid; it's unusable anyway. It's a pity the toolchain community
wasn't consulted if you weren't sure how to design the interface. Better
yet it would have been to implement the GDB side before the kernel part
has been committed.
Maciej
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-10 11:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-03 23:01 Greg Savin via Gdb-patches
2023-08-04 0:21 ` John Baldwin
2023-08-08 22:50 ` [PATCH v2] " Greg Savin via Gdb-patches
2023-08-11 14:27 ` Andrew Burgess via Gdb-patches
2023-08-11 16:41 ` Greg Savin via Gdb-patches
2023-08-09 9:21 ` [PATCH] " Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-08-09 18:11 ` Greg Savin via Gdb-patches
2023-08-09 23:09 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-08-10 10:35 ` Andy Chiu via Gdb-patches
2023-08-10 11:40 ` Maciej W. Rozycki [this message]
2023-08-10 13:55 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-08-10 17:23 ` Andy Chiu via Gdb-patches
2023-08-10 21:08 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-08-10 21:21 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-08-11 11:28 ` Andy Chiu via Gdb-patches
2023-08-10 14:05 ` Andy Chiu via Gdb-patches
2023-08-10 20:51 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-07-30 10:52 Sameer Natu
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