From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>, Nick Clifton <nickc@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>,
Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>,
Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
matz@gcc.gnu.org, Scott Gayou <sgayou@redhat.com>,
Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>,
gcc-patches List <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
GDB Patches <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: libiberty PATCH to disable demangling of ancient mangling schemes
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 16:11:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aff87924-f257-733c-cb6c-0b45dd1a9684@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181207104011.GD12380@tucnak>
Adding gdb-patches, since demangling affects gdb.
Ref: https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2018-12/msg00407.html
On 12/07/2018 10:40 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 10:27:17AM +0000, Nick Clifton wrote:
>>>> Looks good to me. Independently, do you see a reason not to disable the
>>>> old demangler entirely?
>>>
>>> Like so. Does anyone object to this? These mangling schemes haven't
>>> been relevant in decades.
>>
>> I am not really familiar with this old scheme, so please excuse my ignorance
>> in asking these questions:
>>
>> * How likely is it that there are old toolchain in use out there that still
>> use the v2 mangling ? Ie I guess that I am asking "which generation(s)
>> of gcc used v2 mangling ?"
>
> GCC 3.0 and up used the new (Itanium C++ ABI) mangling, 2.95 and older used the old
> mangling (2.96-RH used the new mangling I believe).
> So you need compiler older than 17.5 years to have the old mangling.
> Such a compiler didn't support most of the contemporarily used platforms
> though at all (e.g. x86-64, powerpc64le, aarch64, I believe not even
> powerpc64-linux).
>
Yeah.
I guess the question would be whether it is reasonable to expect
that people will still need to debug&inspect (with gdb, c++filt, etc.)
any such old binary, and that they will need to do it with with modern
tools, as opposed to sticking with older binutils&gdb, and how often
would that be needed.
I would say that it's very, very unlikely, and not worth it of the
maintenance burden.
Last I heard of 2.95-produced binaries I think was for some ancient gcc-2.95-based
cross compiler that was still being minimally maintained, because it was needed
to build&maintain some legacy stuff. That was maybe over 8 years ago, and
it was off trunk. It's probably dead by now. And if isn't dead,
whoever maintains the compiler off trunk certainly can also maintain old-ish
binutils & gdb off trunk.
Thanks,
Pedro Alves
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2018-12-07 16:11 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2018-12-07 17:49 ` Tom Tromey
2018-12-07 21:01 ` Jason Merrill
2018-12-14 22:39 ` Jason Merrill
2018-12-16 4:50 ` Simon Marchi
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