From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 123196 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2017 13:54:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 123180 invoked by uid 89); 15 Dec 2017 13:54:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-6.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,GIT_PATCH_1,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=appreciation, Companies, fundamentally, companies X-HELO: mail-qk0-f196.google.com Received: from mail-qk0-f196.google.com (HELO mail-qk0-f196.google.com) (209.85.220.196) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:54:02 +0000 Received: by mail-qk0-f196.google.com with SMTP id z203so10407820qkb.5 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 05:54:01 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lQEkzZ7O28MdFU0b6Xbwa/ObeEI5U/LsJiotExYDS5M=; b=AZ4fY7rKFnlCuHWJsTV7S2sVBb4HWmDCmO2EjhrJweUzSErt9BhzsM+0g/VPwv6bHw J+7Xe2j1dg11BOtrevLjlpxqHLg0Ax1fBkcZFMASq/YRux1v/EJb7BEzh6jU+iYwhooc XMng7MB73WiLsvRDkG334/SzEyfYw/gWM0vusOQd4w88ZA6OnlisktjHdXqsEkPuTop8 3TnbPFpKoVzvelYnMvyx12IBZ0yMU/dnWBJ/ssSavxGmn/YY9GWFw/DkqwaUgnc2OLFA 5OL0nt4Wt+59vqEEalgMDgLcGEJ32HMsCVlnOOuBSZ/CK79YUxJsG/wd1YS4xAUqZg5P NtjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mLzLGwvxyFDuT5sDZHBtu4+qmUm3GamXv40qBe42x1adC9L5YBu aei1zGWS3mjWZdE5ZI+1vZt7UJUVJb3RtMi4wxI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBos6gZKXtnEMro2nkz2yrgJFhbKvDqL2ioxewFLIXUENwdaXf4q23He2hKtNkEp+5Cn1z+qoV4q8w4Cbk/ctvc0= X-Received: by 10.55.43.89 with SMTP id r86mr2362271qkh.33.1513346040363; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 05:54:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.196.134 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 05:53:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87d13g6r5t.fsf@redhat.com> References: <87d13g6r5t.fsf@redhat.com> From: David Edelsohn Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:54:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [BuildBot] Notifications disabled for Debian-s390x-* and Fedora-ppc64*-* builders To: Sergio Durigan Junior Cc: GDB Patches , Edjunior Machado Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-SW-Source: 2017-12/txt/msg00375.txt.bz2 On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:45 AM, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote: > Hi there, > > This is a small announcemente to let you know that I have disabled > e-mail notifications for a few builders. > > All of the Fedora-ppc*-* builders: > > Fedora-ppc64be-m64 > Fedora-ppc64be-native-gdbserver-m64 > Fedora-ppc64be-native-extended-gdbserver-m64 > Fedora-ppc64be-cc-with-index > Fedora-ppc64le-m64 > Fedora-ppc64le-native-gdbserver-m64 > Fedora-ppc64le-native-extended-gdbserver-m64 > Fedora-ppc64le-cc-with-index > > All of the Debian-s390x-* builders: > > Debian-s390x-m64 > Debian-s390x-native-gdbserver-m64 > Debian-s390x-native-extended-gdbserver-m64 > > I have also removed them from the list of Try Builders, so if you use > the try build, please update your config file. An updated list can be > found here: > > > > I took this decision after noticing that these builders have been > lagging behind for quite some time. Some of them have more than 900 > queued builds! > > I've been talking with Edjunior Machado about the PPC64* machines. > Unfortunately it appears that Minicloud, the project that provided the > machines, is going through some difficulties right now. We're now > investigating the possibility to move these resources to the GCC Compile > Farm. > > As for the s390x machine, I haven't had the chance to investigate > further what is happening. > > I would like to take this opportunity to invite more people/companies to > join our BuildBot effort! There's always opportunity for improvement, > and we're always looking for more machines and architectures to add to > our infrastructure. If you have interest, please get in touch (in > private) with me and we'll get the ball rolling. This decision is beyond stupid and completely negates the purpose of the buildbots. GDB testsuite now requieres 9 hours to complete on s390x. Something is fundamentally broken. Instead of the GDB community noticing the issue, investigating, and fixing, it chooses to ignore the problem. And yet you ask for more companies to participate and contribute build bots. Why should any company participate when the response is pathetic and issues that the buildbots raise are ignored? Companies should not participate until the GDB community shows some interest in utilizing and showing appreciation for the valuable resources contributed to the program. Otherwise this is just a vanity project for Sergio with no real benefit to the stability of GDB on the architectures, nor to the companies. Thanks, David