From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26912 invoked by alias); 12 Aug 2015 18:50:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 26901 invoked by uid 89); 12 Aug 2015 18:50:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-io0-f172.google.com Received: from mail-io0-f172.google.com (HELO mail-io0-f172.google.com) (209.85.223.172) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES128-GCM-SHA256 encrypted) ESMTPS; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:50:29 +0000 Received: by iods203 with SMTP id s203so29502397iod.0 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:50:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=2IbjfzLDeotvbj9yML1Nsvvt4xaE1tfLODtFsHISU7k=; b=SP0P4mCNeBlWSMc6ObtnRFgadGWFkbE71xtFakgGAPtf1vdC7X1XKUIwS67tP4a7rz O2axdg1DmUansv2JFpmvWv+yWbZP04uay9NR9FQG3YvxQyxYw2Wf32ouxgiiY4Cw5oKZ +K2hUHzmcNGWEnuESKZWu6UiLn14GVOuf9ojIZugakw4hxGP+CGWVk4BaHMqKedSt8NS Gmwc/vtL72OzWPMXURvZtDtEGIVw1aPagsNs7IDQ8n5YU3dxDdeTF1GWl/1qkopcP7ir GOh0ug41J8x1SmK7MKvVZBM7HoUsDDg+/6Z9kcta5FNU/1o3F1FunIjUylNakSklTz/Q bhNA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlcwQAaed0OiVYMrHgNJfBZU545bQHUv2UnpXbc/yX24iN0gP79yAIPFxAr8+ZVkE8ycQbV X-Received: by 10.107.168.25 with SMTP id r25mr7499545ioe.32.1439405427657; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:50:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.93.102 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:49:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150812184307.GF22245@adacore.com> References: <1438287227-11303-1-git-send-email-simon.marchi@ericsson.com> <55BF7962.3060106@redhat.com> <55BF85BC.8040102@ericsson.com> <55BF9811.50202@redhat.com> <20150804172110.GI4777@adacore.com> <55CB123F.70603@redhat.com> <87r3n85ukx.fsf@redhat.com> <20150812172225.GE22245@adacore.com> <20150812184307.GF22245@adacore.com> From: Doug Evans Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:50:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove symlinks created in argv0-symlink.exp and general cleanup To: Joel Brobecker Cc: Sergio Durigan Junior , Pedro Alves , Simon Marchi , gdb-patches , Yao Qi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2015-08/txt/msg00314.txt.bz2 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Joel Brobecker wrote: >> I suspect, though I haven't tried, if we remove the >> check-parallel/check-single test, it would be straightforward to >> remove the GNU make requirement and just move the details to a wrapper >> script. > > Dependency tracking also requires GNU/Make; would you be able to > take care of that through the wrapper? Maybe I missed something but I didn't see any real dependency tracking as far as the invocation of runtest goes. Clearly the current implementation uses dependencies to implement check-parallel, but I wouldn't call those dependencies per-se. >> Always invoking runtest by a wrapper script has other benefits. >> >> I'm not advocating for this, I only ever use GNU make. >> But if the topic comes up, it's not clear to me GNU make >> is an absolute requirement. > > It would be nice to list the additional benefits and decide whether > we want to go that route or not, ideally more-or-less independently > of whether we want to require GNU/Make or not. > > The reason why I am advocating in favor of requiring GNU/Make is that > we are regularly hindered or doing extra work trying to support non- > GNU/Make, while on the other hand, the community affected by this > proposal only need to update their build procedures to put GNU/Make > on their PATH. And since GCC already requires GNU/Make, I cannot > understand why it would be difficult to do so. How often does it come up in the context of "make check" (beyond the check-parallel implementation). Other reasons for wanting to require GNU/Make are outside the scope of my email. :-)