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From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 9/9] enable target-async
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 20:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r49piu9z.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <528A2E8B.9050300@redhat.com> (Pedro Alves's message of "Mon, 18	Nov 2013 15:13:15 +0000")

>>>>> "Pedro" == Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com> writes:

Pedro> Sorry, I wasn't clear.  I understand what as a whole the patch is trying
Pedro> to do; what I don't understand is why a hack was necessary, or its
Pedro> implementation.  E.g., what exactly fails if the hack is not
Pedro> in place?; Why this spot for the hack?; What's the predicate used in
Pedro> the hack actually checking?

I don't remember, but I'll back it out and redo the analysis to find
out.

Pedro> Now that I looked again a little closer, I recalled that GDB in
Pedro> sync mode always outputs a silly extra prompt right after
Pedro> ^running (in response to execution commands), before the target
Pedro> stops, even though GDB is not ready for input then.  Guess this
Pedro> hack is related?

Probably so.  To my surprise dealing with the prompt was by far the most
difficult part of this series.  Doubly sad since the prompt just seems
like a mistake to me in the first place.

>> set target-async on
>> &"set target-async on\n"
>> ^done
>> (gdb) 
>> -list-target-features
>> ^done,features=["async"]

Pedro> I guess we could see it either way.  -list-target-features lists
Pedro> target features.  So with GDB today, until "set target-async on"
Pedro> is issued, the target doesn't support async.  After the series,
Pedro> the target does support async even if MI itself isn't async.
Pedro> E.g., I'd've expected 'interpreter-exec mi "-list-target-features"'
Pedro> issued from the cli to list "async".

Pedro> Given the chicken and egg thing already exists today, this makes
Pedro> me think no frontend is actually looking for this feature... (?)

Pedro> Anyway, fine with me to leave this as you have it for now, and
Pedro> maybe reconsider it after the series is in.

Yeah.  My overall goal for this series was to eliminate the need for
"set target-async on", while at the same time preserving the current MI
output, regardless of whether I felt it was correct; unless said change
is clearly compatible according to the normal MI rules.  My reasoning is
that this is the best way to avoid breaking a client.

>>>> -# so the stop reason is printed into MI uiout an.
>>>> -if {$async} {
>>>> -    set reason "end-stepping-range"
>>>> -} else {
>>>> -    set reason ""
>>>> -}
>>>> +set reason "end-stepping-range"
>> 
Pedro> I'm a little confused by this one.  Isn't it still necessary
Pedro> for targets that don't do async?

I re-examined this and I think the answer is much simpler than all the
incorrect things I wrote before.

git master gdb in the default (target-async off) mode prints:

*stopped,frame={addr="0x0000000000400597",func="callee4",args=[],file="../../../binutils-gdb/gdb/testsuite/gdb.mi/basics.c",fullname="/home/tromey/Space/SecondArcher/binutils-gdb/gdb/testsuite/gdb.mi/basics.c",line="26"},thread-id="1",stopped-threads="all",core="0"

The gdb from this branch prints:

*stopped,reason="end-stepping-range",frame={addr="0x0000000000400597",func="callee4",args=[],file="../../../binutils-gdb/gdb/testsuite/gdb.mi/basics.c",fullname="/home/tromey/gnu/gdb/devel/binutils-gdb/gdb/testsuite/gdb.mi/basics.c",line="26"},thread-id="1",stopped-threads="all",core="3"


That is, gdb now emits reason="end-stepping-range".  This is a
compatible change to the output.  This explains the patch: now the
!$async case is no longer hit.

Tom


  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-06 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-22 17:59 [PATCH v4 0/9] enable target-async by default Tom Tromey
2013-10-22 17:59 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] PR gdb/13860: make -interpreter-exec console "list" behave more like "list" Tom Tromey
2013-10-22 17:59 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] add "this" pointers to more target APIs Tom Tromey
2013-10-28 16:04   ` Pedro Alves
2013-10-28 16:37     ` Tom Tromey
2013-10-28 16:44       ` Pedro Alves
2013-10-28 16:52         ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-08 18:04           ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-08 21:53             ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-09  3:35               ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-06 17:40                 ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-06 18:35                   ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-06 18:23                 ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-06 19:06                   ` Pedro Alves
2013-10-22 17:59 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] add target method delegation Tom Tromey
2013-10-28 16:05   ` Pedro Alves
2013-10-28 17:51     ` Tom Tromey
2013-10-28 17:53       ` Tom Tromey
2013-10-29 20:55         ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-08 17:44           ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-11 22:03             ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-12  2:46               ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-13 22:07                 ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-16 13:07                   ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-16 21:21                     ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-17 16:17                       ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-18 18:29                         ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-18 22:06                           ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-19 16:03                             ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-19 16:15                               ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-20 19:24                                 ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-08 16:34       ` Pedro Alves
2013-10-22 17:59 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] PR gdb/13860: make "-exec-foo"'s MI output equal to "foo"'s MI output Tom Tromey
2013-10-22 17:59 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] fix latent bugs in ui-out.c Tom Tromey
2013-10-28 15:20   ` Pedro Alves
2013-10-28 17:36     ` Tom Tromey
2013-10-22 18:11 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] fix py-finish-breakpoint.exp with always-async Tom Tromey
2013-11-11 19:51   ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-09 17:53     ` Tom Tromey
2013-10-22 18:26 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] enable target-async Tom Tromey
2013-10-22 20:15   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-11 19:54   ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-12 20:53   ` Pedro Alves
2013-11-15  0:45     ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-18 15:42       ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-06 20:44         ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2013-12-09 12:01           ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-09 15:57             ` Tom Tromey
2014-02-21 20:23               ` Tom Tromey
2014-02-24 17:38           ` Tom Tromey
2013-10-22 18:26 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] PR gdb/13860: don't lose '-interpreter-exec console EXECUTION_COMMAND''s output in async mode Tom Tromey
2013-10-22 19:00 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] make dprintf.exp pass in always-async mode Tom Tromey
2013-11-12  0:05   ` Pedro Alves

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