From: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>
To: Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca>
Cc: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] Add gdbpy_borrowed_ref
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 20:55:59 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pl5tqxww.fsf@tromey.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <895a8aec-9f2b-47b3-99a6-a249905b8ca4@simark.ca> (Simon Marchi's message of "Mon, 23 Feb 2026 23:57:07 -0500")
>> + template<typename T,
>> + typename = std::is_convertible<T *, PyObject *>>
>> + operator T * ()
>> + {
>> + gdb_assert (PyObject_TypeCheck (m_obj, T::corresponding_object_type));
>> + return static_cast<T *> (m_obj);
>> + }
Simon> Shouldn't gdbpy_borrowed_ref be templated? Allowing any gdbpy_ref to be
Simon> downcast to any subclass of PyObject seems a bit permissive. At least
Simon> there is a runtime check, but it would be nice to have more type safety
Simon> at compile time.
Yeah, however this does not actually come up very much.
In fact all the casts I am aware are of 'self', which means we could
maybe solve this a special case: turn functions into methods on the
object, and then have the wrappers wrap a pointer-to-member-function.
This would mean that 'this' would be implicitly a borrowed reference,
but OTOH this isn't likely to be a big source of confusion and it would
make the code even simpler.
Simon> arch_object *arch = gdbpy_borrowed_ref<arch_object> (...); // works
Simon> arch_object *arch = gdbpy_borrowed_ref<PyObject> (...); // does not work
Simon> That being said, apart from the wrappers themselves, I don't expect that
Simon> we'll need to do that often. I suppose that it would be possible to
Simon> access the fields like this?
As long as there's an operator*. But if we did the method approach,
there'd be basically no need for this at all.
Simon> I also toyed with defining some types like:
Simon> struct PyDict : public PyObject {};
Simon> struct PyList : public PyObject {};
Simon> struct PyLong : public PyObject {};
Simon> struct PyTuple : public PyObject {};
Simon> struct PyType : public PyObject {};
Simon> gdbpy_new_list would return a gdbpy_ref<PyList>.
Simon> gdbpy_list_append would take a gdbpy_borrowed_ref<PyList>.
Simon> And then we could have some ways of down-casting, if needed.
It could be done. I'm ambivalent about it since I don't think this is a
common source of errors in gdb, I guess mainly because the needed
type-checks are re-done by Python anyway.
OTOH we've had multiple refcount bugs and multiple cases where exception
checks are missed. Those are the problems I really set out to solve.
Tom
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-25 3:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-22 19:49 [RFC 0/4] Better Python safety Tom Tromey
2026-02-22 19:49 ` [RFC 1/4] Add gdbpy_borrowed_ref Tom Tromey
2026-02-24 4:57 ` Simon Marchi
2026-02-25 3:55 ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2026-02-25 15:24 ` Simon Marchi
2026-02-26 1:38 ` Tom Tromey
2026-02-22 19:49 ` [RFC 2/4] Add wrappers for some Python APIs Tom Tromey
2026-02-22 19:49 ` [RFC 3/4] Add constexpr functions to create PyMethodDef entries Tom Tromey
2026-02-22 19:49 ` [RFC 4/4] Convert some Python code to new-style Tom Tromey
2026-02-23 20:28 ` [RFC 0/4] Better Python safety Simon Marchi
2026-02-23 21:00 ` Simon Marchi
2026-02-23 23:23 ` Tom Tromey
2026-02-23 23:56 ` Tom Tromey
2026-02-24 1:05 ` Simon Marchi
2026-02-24 16:29 ` Tom Tromey
2026-02-23 21:22 ` Tom Tromey
2026-03-04 17:39 ` Matthieu Longo
2026-03-04 21:02 ` Tom Tromey
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