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It would be strange (for lack > Eli> of a better, but still polite, word) to drop support of XP just > Eli> because Python did. > > It's not just Python though. Microsoft also dropped support for it 10 > years ago. So we're talking about holding back GNU development for the > sake of an obsolete proprietary system. > > I think it would be fine to declare GDB 17 as the last release that > supports XP. Users who care about this -- and there cannot be many -- > can just use that version in perpetuity. We can discuss the broader issue of whether we want to drop support for XP, yes. When we do, please explain how supporting it holds back GNU development, as the basis for the discussion, and let's take it from there.