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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: gdb-patches@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb-patches mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gdb-patches-bounces~public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org > From: Arsen Arsenović > Cc: Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com, simark@simark.ca, tom@tromey.com, > tdevries@suse.de, gdb-patches@sourceware.org > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 20:24:11 +0100 > > Are you aware of any users of Windows XP? I was such a user until a year and a half ago, when the metal has died of old age (it worked for 12 years, day in and day out) and I needed to move on. I still have that same XP system in a VM on my new machine, although it now serves mainly for testing. > Do you know why they still use it? Until a year and a half ago, I was using it because the system was rock-solid and stable, and since regular updates ceased a long time ago, I could have the system up and running (and Emacs running on it) for months on end without rebooting. > Do you know if they do software updates, and whether their > machines are networked (and, if so, please advise them to airgap or > update them)? Of course, it was connected to the Internet! How do you think I could do all the reviews of GDB documentation patches if it didn't? > Also, other development tools already don't work on XP, Python being a > good example from this very thread. Python 3.4.4 still works. As does mingw.org's MinGW, which has GCC and Binutils. To say nothing about Emacs. Last significant GNU packages I built natively on Windows XP (with 32-bit MinGW) before the XP machine died were Binutils v2.41, GDB 14.1 (with Python and Guile), Texinfo 7.1, Gawk 5.3.0, Make 4.4.1 and Emacs 28.2. (They are all available from my ezwinports site, btw.)