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From: Yao Qi <qiyaoltc@gmail.com>
To: "Wiederhake\, Tim" <tim.wiederhake@intel.com>
Cc: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>,  "Metzger\,
	Markus T" <markus.t.metzger@intel.com>,
	 "gdb-patches\@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>,
	 "xdje42\@gmail.com" <xdje42@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: GDB 8.0 release/branching 2017-03-20 update
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 15:19:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8660igjled.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9676A094AF46E14E8265E7A3F4CCE9AF3C1342D2@IRSMSX106.ger.corp.intel.com>	(Tim Wiederhake's message of "Fri, 7 Apr 2017 11:53:02 +0000")

"Wiederhake, Tim" <tim.wiederhake@intel.com> writes:

> Imagine you have some code like this:
>
>  void
>  a ()
>  {
>    /* some code */
>  }
>  
>  void
>  b ()
>  {
>    /* some code */
>    a ();
>    /* some code */
>  }
>
> Then the trace for a call to function "b" would generate three function call
> segments: One for the code in "b" before the call to "a", one for the code in
> "a" and one for the code in "b" after the call to "a" returned.
>
> The "next" attribute in the first function segment points to the third function
> segment and likewise the "prev" attribute in the third function segment points
> to the first function segment.  For the second function segment the "up"
> attribute points to the first function segment.
>
> "Segment" is used instead of "Call" throughout the btrace code to avoid the
> impression that one function segment contains the whole recorded data for a
> function call whereas it only contains a part of it.  I believe we should
> continue this terminology in Python.
>  

OK, "Segment" is fine with me.

>> > The user needs to distinguish between instructions and gaps somehow
>> > anyway, and
>> > this solution would let them do so quite nicely.  Example code:
>> >
>> >  r = gdb.current_recording()
>> >  for insn in r.instruction_history:
>> > 	try:
>> > 		print insn.pc, insn.sal
>> > 	except:
>> > 		# It's a gap!
>> > 		print insn.error_message
>> >
>> I don't like using exception for control flow.
>
> The above code with the "error" attribute still in place would look like this:
>
>  r = gdb.current_recording()
>  for insn in r.instruction_history:
>    if not insn.error:
>      print insn.pc, insn.sal
>    else:
>      print insn.error_message
>
> The user has to take care about the rare possibility of a gap occurring in the
> trace.  In the latter case, they have to explicitly check that the instruction
> they look at is not a gap, which is easy to forget and will lead to strange
> results as the "pc", "sal", "data", "size" and so on attributes of a gap do not
> contain meaningful data.
>
> In the former example, the exception is raised by accessing "insn.pc", an
> attribute that does not exist for a gap.  I expect the usual code for the
> "except" path to just contain a "pass" or "continue" statement.  I just printed
> the error_message in the example to showcase how this situation would be handled
> if a user desired so.
>
> If you wanted to write this example without handling exceptions, you could do
> so as well:
>
>  r = gdb.current_recording()
>  for insn in r.instruction_history:
> 	print getattr(insn, "pc", "has no address"), getattr(insn, "sal", "has no sal")
>
> And even if the user simply wrote:
>
>  r = gdb.current_recording()
>  for insn in r.instruction_history:
> 	print insn.pc, insn.sal
>
> there are two cases: The trace contains no gaps (common), or the trace contains
> gaps (uncommon).  If the trace did not contain any gaps, the code works as
> expected.  If the trace contained gaps, Python will raise an exception pointing
> in the right direction of the problem.
>
> If instead we continued to offer the "error" attribute and the user forgot to
> check, the code would silently fail and produce wrong results.  I believe the
> option where we fail loud and clear is favorable over the silently wrong result.
>
>> If I understand "gap"
>> correctly, it is caused something interrupt the tracing.
>
> There might be other causes as well, such as overflows, decoding errors, etc.
> Again, ideally the trace contains no gaps at all, but rarely it may contain one
> or more gaps interleaved with the regular instructions.
>

Is it possible that gap is not caused by error?  As I said in previous
mail, user may want to trace a block of instructions, instructions out
of this range are regarded as gap.  My point is that we need to define a
general reason in gap instead of error.

>>  I'd like to
>> change the interface like this,
>> 
>> gdb.InstructionHistory
>>   a list of gdb.RecordInstruction
>>   gdb.RecordGap (or gdb.RecordStopReason)
>> 
>> It saves a list of instructions and why the record is stopped or
>> interrupted.  It can be different reasons, like hardware limitation,
>> or user preference (user only wants to record/trace instructions
>> executed in current function foo, so any function calls in foo will
>> cause a gap in the history.  In this way, gdb.RecordGap don't have to be
>> an error).
>> 
>> gdb.Record.instruction_history returns a list of gdb.InstructionHistory.
>
> Just to make sure: You propose that gdb.Record.instruction_history returns a
> list of partial lists, and each partial list contains the reason why that
> particular partial list was interrupted / stopped, correct?

Yes.

>
> Generating this list of lists would be quite expensive as we have to go over the
> whole list of instructions (that at least for btrace internally /is/ a list of
> instructions interleaved with gap objects), count the gaps and save their
> position to know the length of this list of lists and the start and end of the
> individual sub lists.  With the explanation above how to do this without having
> to care about exceptions, would you agree on keeping the list one-dimensional,
> with instructions and rarely gaps interleaved as-is?

OK, that is fine to me.

-- 
Yao (齐尧)


  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-07 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-20 20:16 Joel Brobecker
2017-03-20 20:21 ` Keith Seitz
2017-03-20 22:39 ` Yao Qi
2017-03-20 22:47   ` Yao Qi
2017-03-20 22:52   ` Joel Brobecker
2017-03-20 23:03     ` Yao Qi
2017-03-21 13:28       ` Joel Brobecker
2017-03-21  7:35     ` Wiederhake, Tim
2017-03-21 13:28       ` Joel Brobecker
2017-03-21 13:07   ` Yao Qi
2017-03-21 13:31     ` Joel Brobecker
2017-03-22 13:58     ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-22 17:09       ` Yao Qi
2017-03-23 16:01         ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-23 17:25           ` Yao Qi
2017-03-23 18:17             ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-24 14:41               ` Yao Qi
2017-03-27 10:51                 ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-27 11:19                   ` Yao Qi
2017-03-27 12:46                     ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-27 16:03                       ` Yao Qi
2017-03-28  7:16                         ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-28 13:25                           ` Yao Qi
2017-03-28 15:08                             ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-28 15:49                               ` Yao Qi
2017-03-29  6:08                                 ` Metzger, Markus T
     [not found]                                   ` <861stgo072.fsf@gmail.com>
2017-03-29 14:38                                     ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-30 10:50                                       ` Yao Qi
2017-03-30 11:58                                         ` Metzger, Markus T
     [not found]                                           ` <86h92a4w86.fsf@gmail.com>
2017-03-30 15:55                                             ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-31 13:55                                               ` Yao Qi
2017-03-31 15:21                                                 ` Metzger, Markus T
2017-03-31 16:02                                                   ` Joel Brobecker
2017-04-06 14:40                                                     ` Wiederhake, Tim
2017-04-07  8:10                                                       ` Yao Qi
2017-04-07 11:53                                                         ` Wiederhake, Tim
2017-04-07 15:19                                                           ` Yao Qi [this message]
2017-03-21 14:00 ` Yao Qi
2017-03-21 14:03   ` Pedro Alves
2017-03-27 13:35 ` Antoine Tremblay

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