From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from simark.ca by simark.ca with LMTP id WzeGHS1L9mY0xjgAWB0awg (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 02:05:33 -0400 Authentication-Results: simark.ca; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gnu.org header.i=@gnu.org header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=cAL16DPq; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by simark.ca (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5D4C11E353; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 02:05:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on simark.ca X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.1 required=5.0 tests=ARC_SIGNED,ARC_VALID, BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE,URIBL_BLOCKED, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from server2.sourceware.org (server2.sourceware.org [8.43.85.97]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by simark.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E8011E08F for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 02:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.sourceware.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65B6385841C for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 06:05:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from eggs.gnu.org (eggs.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142:3::10]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 673493858D28 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 06:05:12 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 673493858D28 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gnu.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gnu.org ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 673493858D28 Authentication-Results: server2.sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=2001:470:142:3::10 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1727417114; cv=none; b=UIqObY3Q4viARUaZr+KKpz1VZXSXskCikvljuBn0+QpXRkaZcOdxO7y3C2NC/ywhSHw9QRaOQxXwWbIgtHgnqmDqkSv9iSzULA3gi3LMz7DUiIa91YpmK0vulp0ByshjQMKqTM8rkAT+0OEX9MEOht8PeOhRqNh/69V3aRNeWFE= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1727417114; c=relaxed/simple; bh=NiOyqAUBfNnD99ZEc7Yv5gqQaV41tmiIT1lEhjgOq1Y=; h=DKIM-Signature:Date:Message-Id:From:To:Subject; b=g48RJ0jJHRHIOSIPhyzxYq4L1LUBUiUx5C/siEsCOz10pbN7Pw+UoZ0aL+F9EEudgNJzMZAYC9Op3GBAxLGrDp9vAwUea0315x+7sKN2NUi3ZAvmG+CxmwPxIoGTLX/wfI7eOUOr3QsMKLZfJNALPZWHF1NNnEguKnPG/7sXipk= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1su46J-0002ay-9N; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 02:05:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Rzr1aN28fpjoGaKXoNJqknJuI7PU7HlcP7fCHapuhNs=; b=cAL16DPq3iXW MmYomsMKvhqjoWJFTYJBpuMT8JTvQ3Jd+JbrnugTifui3oHfi1OiRfC8QQ6ARNR8dokV6iKfuKcXo 3XcmngOE9Hw21rfB4JFjY5ZlJ6hZc2sgw6ZY8tlr7o+YXTyj5rPiuK46vPZl1eIX9sLm/V9sAw/bR ybmAjdaUXb+1Uh9E6niCaaApTIGaESvvjiab4cF6QblZpHE6nG3fl5h0gXAsp5ZHWRPQzBqxKkbJq d/Net+U1PKcCu7q3mWzacPwDdnENegkMillLtK8RFSFEpQmhKz0oZlBWtLZXN+XgKABGc4OfC3267 wNUwoQV247yAFGrVe3n3VA==; Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:05:06 +0300 Message-Id: <8634llaay5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Guinevere Larsen Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org In-Reply-To: (message from Guinevere Larsen on Thu, 26 Sep 2024 18:03:05 -0300) Subject: Re: [PATCH] gdb, configure: Add disable-formats option for configure References: <20240925175340.1850969-1-guinevere@redhat.com> <86msjvars2.fsf@gnu.org> <865xqi9sak.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: gdb-patches@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Gdb-patches mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gdb-patches-bounces~public-inbox=simark.ca@sourceware.org > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 18:03:05 -0300 > Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org > From: Guinevere Larsen > > > My point was that the manual doesn't clarify these issues. It left me > > confused. > > > >>> Maybe I'm confused, but if I am, it means we lack some important > >>> information in the manual which would clarify this. > >> Maybe more clarity would be helpful, but I don't think these issues have > >> to do with my patch itself, so I think this should be further > >> improvement for documentation rather than having to fix it in this patch. > > You may be right, but without clarifying this whole issue I cannot > > decide whether your additions about this are okay or not. So I think > > we have no choice but to clarify those other aspects together with > > this review, even if just in principle. > I hope I clarified enough in this email to allow you to judge my changes > on their own, and a later unrelated patch can fill in the missing > information, since the changes really aren't related to enable-targets > and it was my mistake to parse them there instead of just seeing which > tdep files are compiled in and need a file format. Unfortunately, I'm still in the dark here. I'd appreciate if you or someone else who understands the way we deal with targets in all the 3 scenarios -- native debugging, cross-debugging, remote debugging -- could explain how this stuff works (and perhaps how it should work ideally, if what we have is not ideal/correct), and then we could take it from there. We could, of course, just go with your changes disregarding these larger issues, but I think clarifying them will also help us understand better this new feature and make sure it is designed and implemented correctly. OTOH, if I'm the only one who doesn't fully understand this stuff, and everyone else agrees with the suggested changes as they are, feel free to ignore me.