From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6001 invoked by alias); 27 Apr 2012 18:20:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5988 invoked by uid 22791); 27 Apr 2012 18:20:20 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_NO,SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il (HELO mtaout21.012.net.il) (80.179.55.169) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:20:06 +0000 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M3500G00GXDU300@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for gdb-patches@sourceware.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:20:05 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.249.186]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M3500GHEHLESJ80@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:20:05 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:24:00 -0000 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: [PATCH] microMIPS support In-reply-to: To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83y5ph6nqj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k414fjmp.fsf@gnu.org> <83haw6io8k.fsf@gnu.org> <8362cmi65h.fsf@gnu.org> X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2012-04/txt/msg01023.txt.bz2 > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:45:56 +0100 > From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" > CC: > > On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > Index entries should all start with lower-case letters, otherwise the > > > > index sorting is unpredictable (in non-US locales). > > > > > > OK, but is that a problem? If a foreign locale uses a different sorting > > > order, then it's exactly what the user of that locale expects, isn't it? > > > > Not if the Info files are then put into a release tarball and > > distributed worldwide. > > So may I suggest fixing the release process to use the intended locale > instead (C or en_US, or whatever)? I don't know enough about the GDB releases to tell if this is practical. Anyway, I try to keep all index entries start with a lower-case letter. This is more reliable than imposing a certain locale on the environment where the release tarballs are made. > I'll see what I can do about it then, if that satisfies you. However I > still have troubles to accept this requirement. So if the first word had > to be a city or person's name, you'd demand it to start with a small > letter too? We don't have person names or cities in the GDB manual. A manual that has many of these in the indices should probably consistently use capitalization of the first word in the index entries. > I just don't buy it, sorry, there's something wrong with the process > if you must make such requirements. I don't understand why it matters to you so much, sorry. > > > As the platform maintainer I can offer you to review the whole manual and > > > adjust all the instances of "MIPS" (plus any variants and any related > > > acronyms I'll spot) as a separate change. I think it will be more > > > productive and not really a lot of effort. > > > > I will do that when I have time, thanks. > > I offered you mine instead, but I won't insist. Sorry, my misunderstanding. If you want to do it, I'd appreciate that. > I have regenerated both paragraphs added with the tag applied and > actually I agree -- and contrary to documentation it works just fine for > microMIPS. So I decided to follow your suggestion even though @acronym is > a misnomer here ("MIPS" and all the derivatives are really the same class > of names as "Intel", or "Linux", or "NetBSD" are -- it's just that their > capitalisation is weird). You've convinced me. Thank you. > > > > I didn't ask you to revamp the entire section. Even if the rest of > > > > the section will never be fixed, it still makes sense to not increase > > > > the amount of node-less subsections. > > > > > > It makes no sense to me not to revamp the entire section > > > > I won't object if you do revamp it, if you feel like it. But I will > > approve the patch even if you don't, because I think it's unfair to > > ask you to fix what you didn't break. > > I appreciate that, but likewise it's my right to offer you doing it. I accept the offer, thanks. > Do you really like the outcome, like an empty "ARM" subsection with > a lone reference to its "Breakpoint Kinds" subsubsection? I find it > an unnecessary hassle to go through when reading the manual. There's no need to have empty subsections or nodes. Please delete those empty nodes. All I asked was to have a node where you have a subsection with some content. There's no need to introduce subsections or node with no content at all. > I hope you can accept these changes. I accept, but please remove the empty subsections/nodes. Thanks.