From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 125889 invoked by alias); 26 May 2017 07:57:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 125875 invoked by uid 89); 26 May 2017 07:57:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=vintage, offer X-HELO: eggs.gnu.org Received: from eggs.gnu.org (HELO eggs.gnu.org) (208.118.235.92) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 May 2017 07:57:54 +0000 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEA88-000844-7N for gdb-patches@sourceware.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 03:57:56 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56058) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEA88-00083z-3d; Fri, 26 May 2017 03:57:52 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3573 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dEA86-0006wx-V8; Fri, 26 May 2017 03:57:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 07:57:00 -0000 Message-Id: <83shjsjbib.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Pedro Alves CC: brobecker@adacore.com, simon.marchi@polymtl.ca, gdb-patches@sourceware.org In-reply-to: <436bb773-a9b2-6c32-2b9c-7d3a6297d634@redhat.com> (message from Pedro Alves on Thu, 25 May 2017 11:05:00 +0100) Subject: Re: GDB 7.99.91 MinGW compilation error in cli-script.c Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii References: <20170504194442.63AAF60B72@joel.gnat.com> <83o9v3cs25.fsf@gnu.org> <91d9fc6cc7c07674a0b5cd02e7b1502b@polymtl.ca> <8360h38r1r.fsf@gnu.org> <20170517143136.mdnstf2u2jiydvnd@adacore.com> <83fug35v70.fsf@gnu.org> <83y3tt2ow0.fsf@gnu.org> <83vaox2j0w.fsf@gnu.org> <7017128a-7b51-5436-657b-58807d04eb02@redhat.com> <83vaouns1q.fsf@gnu.org> <837f18ohr2.fsf@gnu.org> <54594002-5d70-9ff8-c481-0cbfc8c68c7b@redhat.com> <83fufvm0ro.fsf@gnu.org> <436bb773-a9b2-6c32-2b9c-7d3a6297d634@redhat.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2017-05/txt/msg00553.txt.bz2 > Cc: brobecker@adacore.com, simon.marchi@polymtl.ca, gdb-patches@sourceware.org > From: Pedro Alves > Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 11:05:00 +0100 > > >> I'm surprised mingw does this, because that's a libstdc++ > >> internal symbol... > > > > I'm guessing that was done because releases of MinGW runtime and the > > MinGW port of GCC are not in sync. So people who have a GCC > > installation and upgrade to a later MinGW runtime expect to have this > > problem solved, but the way you seem to assume tjis to happen is by > > them having to build an updated GCC or wait for an update of the GCC > > distribution. > > Your use of "have to wait" above doesn't make sense to me, to be > honest. mingw.org maintainers chose to update the runtime and not > the compiler. It's their choice. Users have to update some component to > fix this, but the decision that the component that needs updating is > the runtime is mingw.org maintainer's. It would have been equally possible to > provide an updated GCC release of the exact same GCC version / vintage > that defined _GLIBCXX_USE_C99 itself (or some other similar localized > hack or even a backport of the proper fix upstream) instead of > defining a libstdc++ internal symbol in the runtime and potentially > causing trouble when/if folks update to newer GCCs that > treat _GLIBCXX_USE_C99 differently, exactly because, as you say, > the runtime and the compiler are not released in sync. I think there's some misunderstanding here. The MinGW runtime needed to be updated in any case, because the root cause of not defining _GLIBCXX_USE_C99 for MinGW was a deficiency in the MinGW runtime: a specific stdio function in the MS runtime wasn't behaving in ANSI-compliant way, and needed a replacement for it to be added to MinGW. The _GLIBCXX_USE_C99 macro was undefined in the libstdc++ headers because of that problem, and the decision whether to define it is made at libstdc++ build time, based on the MinGW runtime that was present at that time. Once that change in the MinGW runtime was made, there were two possible ways of fixing the to_string problem in libstdc++: . build and release a new distribution of GCC, and tell everyone that they must upgrade their GCC, together with MinGW runtime; or . force _GLIBCXX_USE_C99 to be defined in the MinGW runtime headers The MinGW maintainers decided to do the latter, most probably because it is easier on both users and the maintainers. > > mingw.org's MinGW currently doesn't offer GCC newer than 5.3.0, so > > this solution is not yet available to MinGW users. Maybe soon it will > > be. > > The point was that the compiler fix will make std::to_string available > even when _GLIBCXX_USE_C99 ends up not defined, AFAICS. Meaning that with > newer compilers we'll replace std::to_string when it's not necessary, > AFAICS, given: > > +#ifdef __MINGW32__ > +# include <_mingw.h> > +# ifndef _GLIBCXX_USE_C99 > +# undef REPLACE_TO_STRING > +# define REPLACE_TO_STRING 1 > +# endif > +#endif > > >From the ChangeLog entry seen on that bugzilla url, I'd think that > skipping the replacement when GLIBCXX_USE_C99_STDIO is defined > would work. I'm okay with adding the newer symbols to the patch I already installed, if that's what you want. the latest GCC that's currently available for MinGW is 5.3.0, where these newer symbols don't yet appear.