From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14647 invoked by alias); 16 Aug 2013 14:57:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 14638 invoked by uid 89); 16 Aug 2013 14:57:24 -0000 X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_NO,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il (HELO mtaout21.012.net.il) (80.179.55.169) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.84/v0.84-167-ge50287c) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:57:23 +0000 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MRM00F00PJBOZ00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for gdb-patches@sourceware.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:57:20 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MRM00F5FPJJE3C0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:57:20 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:57:00 -0000 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unbuffer stdout and stderr on windows In-reply-to: <520E357E.6080803@redhat.com> To: Pedro Alves Cc: yao@codesourcery.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org, brobecker@adacore.com Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: <83mwohn0nj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <51EE23F8.1070905@codesourcery.com> <83wqohw4ee.fsf@gnu.org> <20130729192559.GA5348@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <83d2q1xiyv.fsf@gnu.org> <51F6C7B2.3020400@redhat.com> <20130731034045.GA5565@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <20130812211105.GA11128@adacore.com> <8361v9piop.fsf@gnu.org> <20130815173618.GA6955@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <83eh9uonlg.fsf@gnu.org> <20130815175940.GD6955@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <520E1109.7000304@redhat.com> <520E1C34.2000907@codesourcery.com> <520E2B13.8020706@redhat.com> <83r4dtn35q.fsf@gnu.org> <520E357E.6080803@redhat.com> X-SW-Source: 2013-08/txt/msg00436.txt.bz2 > Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:21:50 +0100 > From: Pedro Alves > CC: yao@codesourcery.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org, brobecker@adacore.com > > On 08/16/2013 03:03 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I suggest not to broaden the issue beyond the original problem, lest > > we will be unable to solve it. > > Nobody's doing that. What I'm saying is that the testsuite is not > special, and we should _zone in_ to the real problem, and fix it > completely. A complete solution, if it exists, might require much more effort, which is IMO unjustified in the absence of complaints. > What will probably happen with that solution is that Windows GDB > clients will end up using the special testsuite-only flag too, > because by default, GDB will remain broken... I use the Emacs client all the time, and I don't think it's broken. > Why add a flag for a half-fix instead of fixing the issue > completely? I fear that we don't know/understand enough to do TRT for the complete solution. The "half-fix", OTOH, solves a well-defined issue that is understood very well.