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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Vladimir Prus <vladimir@codesourcery.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Implement -exec-jump
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:26:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bpqoha6k.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200904221657.50303.vladimir@codesourcery.com>

> From: Vladimir Prus <vladimir@codesourcery.com>
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:57:49 +0400
> Cc: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com
> 
> > > I believe that a development process that is based on a list of documented
> > > rules or guidelines is in general more smooth, than one that relies on
> > > ad-hoc requests.
> > 
> > That's fine with me, but I don't think it means that a request outside
> > written rules should be automatically rejected just because it isn't
> > documented.  Our process is just barely documented, so building on
> > that alone would make our work and cooperation much harder than it
> > needs to be.
> 
> Sorry, I'm don't follow. It would take you a couple of minutes to document,
> somewhere, whatever you've said in this thread, and this will make future
> development process more smooth. Am I wrong?

No, you are not wrong.  However, my point was that we don't need (and
in practice, cannot) rely on documented rules alone.

> > A request to commit changes with docs is not different from a request
> > to have a test case for each new feature.  I think we should do both.
> 
> On tests, I similarly don't think that an overly strict approach will
> not hurt. Sometimes, having tests checked in later is better approach
> overall.

I think the majority here thinks otherwise.

> I somehow doubt that in my particular case, making me commit code and doc
> patches always together will serve any purpose.

It eases the burden, that's all.  We are all busy people.

> > Even just
> > mentioning the command with minimal documentation and a FIXME for
> > later would be good enough at this point.
> 
> Do you have a mechanism to track FIXMEs in documentation, so that GDB 7.0
> is not released with FIXMEs in documentation?

FIXME in a comment is not visible in the produced manual.  What I was
trying to say was that some minimal documentation is infinitely better
than no documentation.

> > In addition, I said many times in the past that if Texinfo and other
> > technicalities are a burden, contributors can post the documentation
> > in plain text in their own words, and I will convert them to valid
> > Texinfo and reword as necessary.  If that makes the burden easier, I'm
> > here to make good on my promises.
> 
> Frankly, I was never comfortable with the idea of posting "sketch" patches
> for you to do the real work.

It's an offer; if you are uncomfortable with it, you don't have to
take it.  But if it will help us get documentation in time, the effort
is worthwhile for me.

> You might want to note that the patch for -exec-jump docs was now posted,
> and we're not even that close to branch point.

Thank you.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-22 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-08  5:50 Vladimir Prus
2009-04-08  6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-08  7:08   ` Vladimir Prus
2009-04-08  7:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-08  7:36       ` Vladimir Prus
2009-04-08  9:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-08 16:26           ` Tom Tromey
2009-04-22 12:57           ` Vladimir Prus
2009-04-22 17:26             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-04-08  9:16       ` André Pönitz
2009-04-08  9:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-08 11:05           ` André Pönitz
2009-04-08 11:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-08 21:51           ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2009-04-08 21:57             ` Joel Brobecker
2009-04-10 16:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-13 17:24                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-04-08 16:28         ` Tom Tromey
2009-04-08 22:03   ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2009-04-22 12:09 ` Vladimir Prus
2009-04-22 17:16   ` Eli Zaretskii

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