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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@mips.com>
Cc: markus.t.metzger@intel.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] btrace: set/show record btrace cpu
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 15:39:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838tbawkpa.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1803021350500.10166@tp.orcam.me.uk>	(macro@mips.com)

> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 14:15:20 +0000
> From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@mips.com>
> CC: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, "gdb-patches@sourceware.org"
> 	<gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
> 
> On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Metzger, Markus T wrote:
> 
> > The term "erratum" already means 'bug somewhere in the processor'.
> 
>  The term "erratum" is generic and usually means a mistake in a published 
> text.  You need to be more specific and clarify what the term means in 
> this context.
> 
>  I think that Eli's proposal sounds about right, except that I agree that 
> "firmware" does not really fit here; an erratum may be present in hardware 
> logic or in microcode, or it may even be a phenomenon of the manufacturing 
> process, e.g. cases have been known where a malfunction of a specific CPU 
> operation was caused by thermal effects in silicon in otherwise seemingly 
> correct logic.  This makes a "processor erratum" a broad term and 
> therefore I think this specific case does not belong to the concept index.
> 
>  So how about:
> 
>   Processor errata are known to exist that can cause a trace not to match 
>   the specification.  Trace decoders that are unaware of these errata 
>   might fail to decode such a trace.  @value{GDBN} can detect erroneous 
>   trace packets and correct them, thus avoiding the decoding failures.  
>   These corrections or workarounds are enabled based on the processor on 
>   which the trace was recorded.

That still doesn't explain what are those errata.

How about replacing the first sentence above with these two:

  Processor errata are defects in processor operation, caused by its
  design or manufacture.  They can cause a trace not to match the
  specification.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-02 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-23  9:52 [PATCH 1/2] btrace: fix output of "set record btrace" Markus Metzger
2018-02-23  9:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] btrace: set/show record btrace cpu Markus Metzger
2018-02-23 13:52   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-02-26 15:45     ` Metzger, Markus T
2018-02-26 19:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-02-27 11:41         ` Metzger, Markus T
2018-02-27 18:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]             ` <A78C989F6D9628469189715575E55B236964DCE6@IRSMSX104.ger.corp.intel.com>
2018-02-28 15:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-01  7:05                 ` Metzger, Markus T
2018-03-01 14:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-01 16:24                     ` Metzger, Markus T
2018-03-01 19:08                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-02  7:09                         ` Metzger, Markus T
     [not found]                           ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1803021350500.10166@tp.orcam.me.uk>
2018-03-02 15:39                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-03-02 19:04                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-03-02 19:49                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-03-05 10:58                                 ` Metzger, Markus T

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