From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 109017 invoked by alias); 12 Oct 2016 12:03:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 108986 invoked by uid 89); 12 Oct 2016 12:03:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=Hx-languages-length:1071, her, his, hands X-HELO: eggs.gnu.org Received: from eggs.gnu.org (HELO eggs.gnu.org) (208.118.235.92) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:03:24 +0000 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buIFi-0002nl-Ad for gdb-patches@sourceware.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:03:22 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1buIFi-0002nC-7e; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:03:18 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2887 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1buIFh-0005HP-Be; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:03:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:03:00 -0000 Message-Id: <831szlbwqt.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jan Kratochvil CC: palves@redhat.com, brobecker@adacore.com, markus.t.metzger@intel.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org In-reply-to: <20161012114515.GA26977@host1.jankratochvil.net> (message from Jan Kratochvil on Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:45:15 +0200) Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Introduce gdb::unique_ptr Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii References: <83a8eadds7.fsf@gnu.org> <4d49eb8f-5a0c-1e7e-d082-1a224179184f@redhat.com> <831szmd977.fsf@gnu.org> <83vawybol4.fsf@gnu.org> <6ba388f7-1696-42db-ae92-23df79e3ba11@redhat.com> <83oa2qaxe7.fsf@gnu.org> <83fuo1c02j.fsf@gnu.org> <20161012114515.GA26977@host1.jankratochvil.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-10/txt/msg00310.txt.bz2 > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:45:15 +0200 > From: Jan Kratochvil > Cc: Pedro Alves , brobecker@adacore.com, > markus.t.metzger@intel.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org > > Nowadays software is no longer distributed on floppy disks by snail mail. > I do not see a reason for artificial requirements of "5 years". Fixes are > being delivered by automated update systems in days and new releases with > integration testing happen in months. That may all be true, but changing the system compiler is still a serious decision, unrelated to distribution and/or update speeds, and not always even in the hands of the user who wants to build his or her GDB which was just released. The nuisance of having to upgrade half of your system just because you want to have one package of the latest release is real for users who need to do during most of their day something other than debug build failures and install updated dependencies. I was hoping we didn't want to increase those annoyances.