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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: C++11 (abridged version)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 19:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <73e72f21-8acf-1332-08f3-c2c92448c7b8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83d1iuu9i0.fsf@gnu.org>

On 10/20/2016 08:05 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
>> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 18:07:58 +0100
>>
>> On #4 (policy for newer standard versions), as I've been saying many
>> times in the past week, I think that what matters is whether there's
>> reasonably widespread compiler availability, meaning the latest stable
>> releases of distributions include a compiler for the standard, or it's
>> easy to get one by installing some optional package.  If reasonably
>> available, then we should switch, and take advantage of the great work
>> our compiler and standards friends have been doing.
> 
> IMO, this is too vague for a policy.  I proposed a much more
> quantitative criterion, one that doesn't run the risk of triggering
> long disputes with no clear-cut ways of making a decision.  I'm okay
> with other criteria, as long as they are clear, easily applied, and
> don't require subjective interpretation.

Agreed.  That's why I concluded with:

~~~~
Going forward past C++11, since "reasonable availability" is not
quantifiable, Eli suggested the policy of

  "(...) waiting until the oldest compiler which supports that newer
  standard is at least 3 years old (like GCC 4.8.1 is today)."

And I agree with that.  (I'd prefix it with "at least".)
~~~~

I hope to have not misquoted you.  If I have, I apologize.

Thanks,
Pedro Alves


  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-20 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-20 17:08 Pedro Alves
2016-10-20 18:10 ` Luis Machado
2016-10-20 18:24   ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-20 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-20 19:09   ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2016-10-20 19:41     ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-20 19:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 17:26         ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-20 19:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-20 19:38 ` Yao Qi
2016-10-20 19:45   ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-25 20:29 ` Keith Seitz
2016-10-26  0:41   ` Pedro Alves
2016-10-27  0:04 ` Kevin Buettner
2016-10-27 19:24 ` Pedro Alves

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