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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 40/40] Document breakpoints / linespec & co improvements (manual + NEWS)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 19:01:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <68def636-5333-0718-dedd-dad3ef7b2d35@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83shiturhr.fsf@gnu.org>


On 06/21/2017 07:26 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
>> From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
>> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 14:32:54 +0100
>>
>>> Also, I think @kbd is more appropriate here than @code, since you mean
>>> commands the user will type, not just command names.
>>
>> I was addressing this comment, and found myself a bit confused
>> on the distinction between kbd vs code, and what you mean by
>> "commands the user will type, not just command names".  Here I'm
>> referring to how the commands with those names behave, not explicitly
>> discussing typing.  E.g., the commands behave the same way
>> when found in a script too.  Doesn't that suggest @code instead?
> 
> Not IMO.
> 
> We use @code for names of individual commands, like @code{help} or
> @code{run}.  When we need to show a full command line, it is better to
> use @kbd because it is the markup suitable for commands that users
> type.  I don't think it matters much whether they type it at GDB's
> prompt or into a script.
> 
> In a nutshell, when I see a string with embedded whitespace marked up
> in @code, I raise a brow ;-)
> 
> (And yes, I know that we use @code{set FOO} a lot.  That is IMO an
> exception, since the "set" command alone makes very little sense in
> GDB.)

OK, I think I get it.  In this case, I'm saying
"break B::func", which is an example of an invocation of the
command (I'm passing in a specific function name).  Maybe
that's another way to put it -- when talking about invocations
of commands, use @kbd.  A bit like "type" vs "value".

>> What specifically confused me was this example
>> in that page that uses @code for a command name not unlike one of GDB's:
>>
>> ~~~
>> To give the @code{logout} command,
>> type the characters @kbd{l o g o u t @key{RET}}.
>> ~~~
> 
> Why is that confusing?  This text specifically makes a point of
> differentiating between a command's name and the way it is typed at
> the keyboard.  It's a rare case, but it does happen.

The confusion was that I was seeing the cases in my patch
like the @code{logout} case here.  I looked for @kbd instances
in gdb.texinfo, and saw many preceded by type/typing, etc.,
that's why I thought that we'd only use kbd in those cases.
I see now that there are more cases that don't
say "type" explicitly.

>> We seemingly use @code throughout in GDB's manual to refer to
>> command names, which adds to my confusion.  They may all be
>> incorrect, and I'm not trying to justify adding more wrong usages
>> at all.  I'd just like to understand better the distinction you have
>> in mind, so I can follow it consistently too.
> 
> I hope I explained at least some of that.

Thanks, that was sufficient, I think.

I'm merging this on top of the patch that I sent.  The last
hunk fixes a pre-existing case around the text that I'm fixing.

From ff6dfe14de6f207dfe6d227749b7145ad7e95d6f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 19:41:43 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] kbd

---
 gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo | 14 +++++++-------
 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

diff --git a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
index eff1f55..1db8690 100644
--- a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
+++ b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
@@ -7867,8 +7867,8 @@ named @var{function} ignoring missing leading specifiers (namespaces
 and classes).
 
 For example, assuming a program with symbols named @code{A::B::func}
-and @code{B::func}, both commands @w{@code{break func}} and
-@w{@code{break B::func}} set a breakpoint on both symbols.  To
+and @code{B::func}, both commands @w{@kbd{break func}} and
+@w{@kbd{break B::func}} set a breakpoint on both symbols.  To
 override this, you can use the explicit location option
 @code{-qualified}.  @xref{Explicit Locations}.
 
@@ -7941,16 +7941,16 @@ named @var{function} ignoring missing leading specifiers (namespaces
 and classes).
 
 For example, assuming a program with symbols named @code{A::B::func}
-and @code{B::func}, both commands @code{break -function func} and
-@code{break -function B::func} set a breakpoint on both symbols.
+and @code{B::func}, both commands @w{@kbd{break -function func}} and
+@w{@kdb{break -function B::func}} set a breakpoint on both symbols.
 
 @item -qualified @var{function}
 Like @code{-function}, but the value specifies a fully qualified name
 of a function.
 
 For example, assuming a C@t{++} program with symbols named
-@code{A::B::func} and @code{B::func}, the @code{break -qualified
-B::func} command sets a breakpoint on @code{B::func}, only.
+@code{A::B::func} and @code{B::func}, the @w{@kbd{break -qualified
+B::func}} command sets a breakpoint on @code{B::func}, only.
 
 @item -label @var{label}
 The value specifies the name of a label.  When the function
@@ -7965,7 +7965,7 @@ relative to the current line.
 @end table
 
 Explicit location options may be abbreviated by omitting any non-unique
-trailing characters from the option name, e.g., @code{break -s main.c -li 3}.
+trailing characters from the option name, e.g., @w{@kdb{break -s main.c -li 3}}.
 
 @node Address Locations
 @subsection Address Locations
-- 
2.5.5


  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-21 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-02 12:22 [PATCH 00/40] C++ debugging improvements: breakpoints, TAB completion, more Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:22 ` [PATCH 08/40] completion_list_add_name wrapper functions Pedro Alves
2017-06-27 12:56   ` Yao Qi
2017-06-27 15:35     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:22 ` [PATCH 06/40] Expression completer should not match explicit location options Pedro Alves
2017-06-29  8:29   ` Yao Qi
2017-06-29 10:56     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-29 11:08       ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-29 15:23         ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-29 11:24       ` Yao Qi
2017-06-29 15:25         ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:22 ` [PATCH 03/40] Fix gdb.base/completion.exp with --target_board=dwarf4-gdb-index Pedro Alves
2017-07-13 20:28   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-14 16:02     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:22 ` [PATCH 01/40] Make gdb.base/dmsym.exp independent of "set language ada" Pedro Alves
2017-07-18 19:42   ` Simon Marchi
2017-07-20 17:00     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:22 ` [PATCH 14/40] Introduce CP_OPERATOR_STR/CP_OPERATOR_LEN and use throughout Pedro Alves
2017-07-14 18:04   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 14:55     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:22 ` [PATCH 02/40] Eliminate make_cleanup_obstack_free, introduce auto_obstack Pedro Alves
2017-06-26 13:47   ` Yao Qi
2017-06-27 10:25     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-28 10:36   ` Yao Qi
2017-06-28 14:39     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-28 21:33       ` Yao Qi
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 39/40] Breakpoints in symbols with ABI tags (PR c++/19436) Pedro Alves
2017-08-09 19:34   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-27 17:14     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 15/40] Rewrite/enhance explicit locations completer, parse left->right Pedro Alves
2017-07-14 20:55   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 19:24     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 35/40] Comprehensive C++ linespec/completer tests Pedro Alves
2017-08-09 17:30   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-24 16:25     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 36/40] Add comprehensive C++ operator linespec/location/completion tests Pedro Alves
2017-08-09 17:59   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-25  0:18     ` [pushed] " Pedro Alves
2017-11-30 15:43       ` Yao Qi
2017-11-30 16:06         ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-30 16:35           ` [pushed] Fix gdb.linespec/cpls-ops.exp on 32-bit (Re: [pushed] Re: [PATCH 36/40] Add comprehensive C++ operator linespec/location/completion tests) Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 37/40] Fix completing an empty string Pedro Alves
2017-08-09 18:01   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-25  0:28     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 27/40] Make cp_remove_params return a unique_ptr Pedro Alves
2017-08-08 20:35   ` Keith Seitz
2017-10-09 15:13     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 10/40] Clean up "completer_handle_brkchars" callback handling Pedro Alves
2017-07-13 21:08   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 11:14     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 34/40] Make strcmp_iw NOT ignore whitespace in the middle of tokens Pedro Alves
2017-08-09 15:48   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-24 23:38     ` [pushed] " Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 19/40] Fix cp_find_first_component_aux bug Pedro Alves
2017-07-17 19:17   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 19:50     ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-17 21:38       ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-20 17:03         ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 40/40] Document breakpoints / linespec & co improvements (manual + NEWS) Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 13:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-02 13:33     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-21 15:50       ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-21 19:14         ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-22 19:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-22 19:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-21 13:32     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-21 18:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-21 19:01         ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2017-06-22 19:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 28/40] lookup_name_info::make_ignore_params Pedro Alves
2017-08-08 20:55   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-08 16:18     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 18/40] A smarter linespec completer Pedro Alves
2017-07-15  0:07   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 18:21     ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-17 19:02       ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 19:33         ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 38/40] Use TOLOWER in SYMBOL_HASH_NEXT Pedro Alves
2017-08-09 19:25   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-25  0:35     ` [pushed] " Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 09/40] Rename make_symbol_completion_list_fn -> symbol_completer Pedro Alves
2017-06-28 21:40   ` Yao Qi
2017-07-13 20:46   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 11:00     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 13/40] Introduce strncmp_iw Pedro Alves
2017-06-29  8:42   ` Yao Qi
2017-07-17 19:16     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:23 ` [PATCH 11/40] Introduce class completion_tracker & rewrite completion<->readline interaction Pedro Alves
2017-07-14 17:23   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 13:56     ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-18  8:23       ` Christophe Lyon
     [not found]         ` <845f435e-d3d5-b327-4e3a-ce9434bd6ffd@redhat.com>
2017-07-18 10:42           ` [pushed] Fix GDB builds that include the simulator (Re: [PATCH 11/40] Introduce class completion_tracker & rewrite completion<->readline interaction) Pedro Alves
2018-03-05 21:43   ` [PATCH 11/40] Introduce class completion_tracker & rewrite completion<->readline interaction Simon Marchi
2017-06-02 12:28 ` [PATCH 24/40] Per-language symbol name hashing algorithm Pedro Alves
2017-07-18 17:33   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-20 18:53     ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-08 16:08       ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:29 ` [PATCH 05/40] command.h: Include scoped_restore_command.h Pedro Alves
2017-06-27 11:30   ` Yao Qi
2017-06-27 11:45     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-27 11:52       ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-27 12:03         ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-27 15:46           ` [PATCH 05/40] command.h: Include common/scoped_restore.h Pedro Alves
2017-06-28  7:54             ` Yao Qi
2017-06-28 14:20               ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:29 ` [PATCH 21/40] Use SYMBOL_MATCHES_SEARCH_NAME some more Pedro Alves
2017-07-17 21:39   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-20 17:08     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:29 ` [PATCH 12/40] "complete" command and completion word break characters Pedro Alves
2017-07-14 17:50   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 14:36     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:29 ` [PATCH 33/40] Make the linespec/location completer ignore data symbols Pedro Alves
2017-08-09 15:42   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-08 16:22     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:29 ` [PATCH 17/40] Linespec lexing and C++ operators Pedro Alves
2017-07-14 21:45   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-17 19:34     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:29 ` [PATCH 07/40] objfile_per_bfd_storage non-POD Pedro Alves
2017-06-27 12:00   ` Yao Qi
2017-06-27 15:30     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:29 ` [PATCH 16/40] Explicit locations -label completer Pedro Alves
2017-07-14 21:32   ` Keith Seitz
2017-06-02 12:30 ` [PATCH 20/40] Eliminate block_iter_name_* Pedro Alves
2017-07-17 19:47   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-20 17:05     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:30 ` [PATCH 30/40] Use search_domain::FUNCTIONS_DOMAIN when setting breakpoints Pedro Alves
2017-08-08 21:07   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-08 16:20     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:30 ` [PATCH 32/40] Make "break foo" find "A::foo", A::B::foo", etc. [C++ and wild matching] Pedro Alves
2017-08-08 23:48   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-22 16:48     ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-24 16:48       ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-24 16:57         ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-28  0:39         ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-28  0:02       ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-28  0:21         ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-28  0:42           ` Keith Seitz
2017-06-02 12:31 ` [PATCH 22/40] get_int_var_value Pedro Alves
2017-07-17 22:11   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-20 17:15     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:31 ` [PATCH 29/40] Simplify completion_list_add_name | remove sym_text / sym_text_len Pedro Alves
2017-08-08 20:59   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-08 16:19     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:31 ` [PATCH 04/40] Fix TAB-completion + .gdb_index slowness (generalize filename_seen_cache) Pedro Alves
2017-07-13 20:41   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-14 19:40     ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-17 10:51       ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:33 ` [PATCH 31/40] Handle custom completion match prefix / LCD Pedro Alves
2017-08-08 21:28   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-27 17:11     ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:39 ` [PATCH 23/40] Make language_def O(1) Pedro Alves
2017-07-17 23:03   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-20 17:40     ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-20 18:12       ` Get rid of "set language local"? (was: Re: [PATCH 23/40] Make language_def O(1)) Pedro Alves
2017-07-20 23:44         ` Matt Rice
2017-06-02 12:39 ` [PATCH 26/40] Optimize .gdb_index symbol name searching Pedro Alves
2017-08-08 20:32   ` Keith Seitz
2017-11-08 16:14     ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-08 16:16       ` [pushed] Reorder/reindent dw2_expand_symtabs_matching & friends (Re: [PATCH 26/40] Optimize .gdb_index symbol name searching) Pedro Alves
2017-11-18  5:23   ` [PATCH 26/40] Optimize .gdb_index symbol name searching Simon Marchi
2017-11-20  0:33     ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-20  0:42       ` [PATCH 2/3] Unit test name-component bounds searching directly Pedro Alves
2017-11-20  3:16         ` Simon Marchi
2017-11-20 14:17           ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-20  0:42       ` [PATCH 3/3] Fix mapped_index::find_name_components_bounds upper bound computation Pedro Alves
2017-11-20  3:17         ` Simon Marchi
2017-11-20  0:42       ` [PATCH 1/3] 0xff chars in name components table; cp-name-parser lex UTF-8 identifiers Pedro Alves
2017-11-20  1:38         ` Simon Marchi
2017-11-20 11:56           ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-20 16:50             ` Simon Marchi
2017-11-21  0:11               ` Pedro Alves
2017-06-02 12:39 ` [PATCH 25/40] Introduce lookup_name_info and generalize Ada's FULL/WILD name matching Pedro Alves
2017-07-18 20:14   ` Keith Seitz
2017-07-18 22:31     ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-20 19:00       ` Pedro Alves
2017-07-20 19:06         ` Pedro Alves
2017-08-08 20:29           ` Keith Seitz
2017-10-19 17:36             ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-01 15:38               ` Joel Brobecker
2017-11-08 16:10                 ` Pedro Alves
2017-11-08 22:15                   ` Joel Brobecker
2017-06-02 15:26 ` [PATCH 00/40] C++ debugging improvements: breakpoints, TAB completion, more Pedro Alves

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