From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Artemiy Volkov <artemiyv@acm.org>
Cc: Keith Seitz <keiths@redhat.com>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 11:49:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <570CE0B6.8080707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160406083016.GA31849@gmail.com>
On 04/06/2016 09:30 AM, Artemiy Volkov wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 07:23:29PM +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
>> Thanks you very much for this patch set, and big thanks to Keith
>> for the review.
>>
>> I read the series and it looks pretty good to me. The only
>> thing I'm not sure about is the hardcoding of "-std=c++11"
>> in tests. GCC 6 switches to -std=gnu++14 by default, for instance,
>> and I wouldn't want the tests to not cover whatever the compiler
>> uses by default. Note also that that's -std=gnu++14, not the stricter
>> -std=c++14 mode. Could we make the testcases gracefully skip rvalue
>> reference bits using #if __cplusplus?
>
> Point about -std=gnu++ vs. -std=c++ taken, I'll fix it in v5.
>
> My idea here was to use the earliest version of the C++ standard which
> supports rvalue references and compile with that, since compiling with
> every version after that should produce a functionally identical
> program. So I'd say for every version of GCC capable of processing (GNU)
> C++11+ code we should hardcode -std=gnu++11, based on the assumption
> that the supplied version of the compiler is working correctly using any
> standard.
> IOW I think we should be testing GDB, not GCC here.
I wouldn't want to generalize that assumption: C++11 is different enough that
there's even been a need to break ABI. E.g., consider a test that involves
printing or passing a std::string as param in an infcall; these may behave
differently depending on C++ version. The ABI tags feature added to handle
the ABI break also affect namespaces, parsing, and mangling handling in
GDB, and can cause issues when code is compiled in C++11 mode, but not in
C++03, and vice versa. On ABI tags issues, I'm thinking of PR19436 for example.
So GDB needs to be able to debug code compiled with all C++ variants.
> That said, I think your approach has an advantage of letting the
> testsuite pass when using an old compiler not supporting C++11. If we
> should cater for those, then this consideration outweighs the ones in
> the paragraph above. If not, then for the reasons given above, I think
> we should leave -std=gnu++11 in place.
>
> WDYT?
I think we need to consider the pattern being introduced here, in general.
For instance -- what will we do when we decide to test something
C++14/C++17...-specific and find we could do that by just doing a
small tweak to .cc file? Would we bump the testcase's C++ version, losing
coverage of C++11 mode? In effect, that's what happened here.
The only difference is that C++03 is feeling old by now, while C++17 feels
too-new.
However, C++03 is not old enough to be called "ancient" and "don't care",
and what feels "new" is a moving target. Also, not sure all supported
compilers accept "-std=gnu++11"; we may need to try compiling with
different flags.
How about something around this:
- Don't pass any explicit -std flag in the .exp files at all.
- Make these .exp tests gracefully cope with either C++03 or C++11, by
skipping the C++11-specific parts when testing with C++03.
- Run tests with CXX_FOR_TARGET="g++ -std=gnu++03"
- Run tests with CXX_FOR_TARGET="g++ -std=gnu++11"
After this is working, we could have these affected core-functionality
tests themselves automatically run with multiple languages (c++03/c++11/...)
That is, basically, we could factor the testcases to move their bodies to
procedures taking a language version as parameter, and then have the testcases
call the procedure multiple times.
Alternatively, we could split the rvalue reference testing to separate
files. My feeling is that it's a bit nicer that rvalue and lval reference
testing is side by side in the same tests. But that might depend on the
specific testcase. You'll have a better view into this here, though.
WDYT?
Thanks,
Pedro Alves
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2015-12-20 22:35 [PATCH " Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-30 19:17 ` Pedro Alves
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_AT_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-28 21:09 ` [PATCH 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb Artemiy Volkov
2016-01-20 9:42 ` Yao Qi
2016-01-19 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 " Artemiy Volkov
2016-01-19 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:53 ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:54 ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:50 ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:56 ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:49 ` Keith Seitz
2016-02-23 7:04 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-25 1:22 ` Keith Seitz
2016-02-25 1:32 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-25 1:41 ` Keith Seitz
2016-02-25 1:45 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-01-19 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:52 ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 20:05 ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 19:48 ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_AT_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:57 ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 19:46 ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 19:01 ` Keith Seitz
2016-02-26 5:08 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb Keith Seitz
2016-02-23 6:04 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 " Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:19 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-20 12:10 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:32 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:25 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:08 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:41 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:26 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:45 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:48 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:23 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_AT_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:28 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05 3:20 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:22 ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-21 21:02 ` [PATCH v4 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-31 20:35 ` Keith Seitz
2016-04-02 8:28 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-04-02 8:45 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_TAG_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:03 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-31 20:37 ` Keith Seitz
2016-04-02 8:42 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:03 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:03 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-31 20:35 ` [PATCH v4 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb Keith Seitz
2016-04-02 8:48 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-04-05 18:23 ` Pedro Alves
[not found] ` <20160406083016.GA31849@gmail.com>
2016-04-12 11:49 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2016-04-19 15:51 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-04-22 11:31 ` Pedro Alves
2016-06-06 19:22 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++11 " Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-20 19:07 ` Pedro Alves
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-20 19:04 ` Pedro Alves
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_TAG_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support " Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-19 15:08 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++11 rvalue references in gdb Artemiy Volkov
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