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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Artemiy Volkov <artemiyv@acm.org>
Cc: Keith Seitz <keiths@redhat.com>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 11:49:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <570CE0B6.8080707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160406083016.GA31849@gmail.com>

On 04/06/2016 09:30 AM, Artemiy Volkov wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 07:23:29PM +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
>> Thanks you very much for this patch set, and big thanks to Keith
>> for the review.
>>
>> I read the series and it looks pretty good to me.  The only
>> thing I'm not sure about is the hardcoding of "-std=c++11"
>> in tests.  GCC 6 switches to -std=gnu++14  by default, for instance,
>> and I wouldn't want the tests to not cover whatever the compiler
>> uses by default.  Note also that that's -std=gnu++14, not the stricter
>> -std=c++14 mode.  Could we make the testcases gracefully skip rvalue
>> reference bits using #if __cplusplus?
> 
> Point about -std=gnu++ vs. -std=c++ taken, I'll fix it in v5.
> 
> My idea here was to use the earliest version of the C++ standard which
> supports rvalue references and compile with that, since compiling with
> every version after that should produce a functionally identical
> program. So I'd say for every version of GCC capable of processing (GNU)
> C++11+ code we should hardcode -std=gnu++11, based on the assumption
> that the supplied version of the compiler is working correctly using any
> standard. 
> IOW I think we should be testing GDB, not GCC here. 

I wouldn't want to generalize that assumption: C++11 is different enough that
there's even been a need to break ABI.  E.g., consider a test that involves
printing or passing a std::string as param in an infcall; these may behave
differently depending on C++ version.  The ABI tags feature added to handle
the ABI break also affect namespaces, parsing, and mangling handling in
GDB, and can cause issues when code is compiled in C++11 mode, but not in
C++03, and vice versa.  On ABI tags issues, I'm thinking of PR19436 for example.
So GDB needs to be able to debug code compiled with all C++ variants.

> That said, I think your approach has an advantage of letting the
> testsuite pass when using an old compiler not supporting C++11. If we
> should cater for those, then this consideration outweighs the ones in
> the paragraph above. If not, then for the reasons given above, I think
> we should leave -std=gnu++11 in place.
> 
> WDYT?

I think we need to consider the pattern being introduced here, in general.

For instance -- what will we do when we decide to test something
C++14/C++17...-specific and find we could do that by just doing a 
small tweak to .cc file?  Would we bump the testcase's C++ version, losing
coverage of C++11 mode?  In effect, that's what happened here.
The only difference is that C++03 is feeling old by now, while C++17 feels
too-new.

However, C++03 is not old enough to be called "ancient" and "don't care",
and what feels "new" is a moving target.  Also, not sure all supported
compilers accept "-std=gnu++11"; we may need to try compiling with
different flags.

How about something around this:

 - Don't pass any explicit -std flag in the .exp files at all.
 - Make these .exp tests gracefully cope with either C++03 or C++11, by
   skipping the C++11-specific parts when testing with C++03.
 - Run tests with CXX_FOR_TARGET="g++ -std=gnu++03"
 - Run tests with CXX_FOR_TARGET="g++ -std=gnu++11"

After this is working, we could have these affected core-functionality
tests themselves automatically run with multiple languages (c++03/c++11/...)
That is, basically, we could factor the testcases to move their bodies to
procedures taking a language version as parameter, and then have the testcases
call the procedure multiple times.

Alternatively, we could split the rvalue reference testing to separate
files.  My feeling is that it's a bit nicer that rvalue and lval reference
testing is side by side in the same tests.  But that might depend on the
specific testcase.  You'll have a better view into this here, though.

WDYT?

Thanks,
Pedro Alves


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-12 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-20 22:35 [PATCH " Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-30 19:17   ` Pedro Alves
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-20 22:35 ` [PATCH 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_AT_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2015-12-28 21:09 ` [PATCH 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb Artemiy Volkov
2016-01-20  9:42   ` Yao Qi
2016-01-19 18:54 ` [PATCH v2 " Artemiy Volkov
2016-01-19 18:54   ` [PATCH v2 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:53     ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:54   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:54     ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:54   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:50     ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:54   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:56     ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:54   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:49     ` Keith Seitz
2016-02-23  7:04       ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-25  1:22         ` Keith Seitz
2016-02-25  1:32           ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-25  1:41             ` Keith Seitz
2016-02-25  1:45               ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-01-19 18:54   ` [PATCH v2 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:52     ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55   ` [PATCH v2 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 20:05     ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 19:48     ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55   ` [PATCH v2 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_AT_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:57     ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55   ` [PATCH v2 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 19:46     ` Keith Seitz
2016-01-19 18:55   ` [PATCH v2 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 19:01     ` Keith Seitz
2016-02-26  5:08       ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-02-19 18:49   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb Keith Seitz
2016-02-23  6:04     ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-05  3:20   ` [PATCH v3 " Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:19       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-20 12:10         ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:32       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:25       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:08       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:41       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:26       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:45       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:48       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:23       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_AT_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:28       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-05  3:20     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-16 22:22       ` Keith Seitz
2016-03-21 21:02     ` [PATCH v4 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02       ` [PATCH v4 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02       ` [PATCH v4 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02       ` [PATCH v4 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02       ` [PATCH v4 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-31 20:35         ` Keith Seitz
2016-04-02  8:28           ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-04-02  8:45             ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02       ` [PATCH v4 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02       ` [PATCH v4 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_TAG_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:02       ` [PATCH v4 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:03       ` [PATCH v4 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-31 20:37         ` Keith Seitz
2016-04-02  8:42           ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:03       ` [PATCH v4 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:03       ` [PATCH v4 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-21 21:15       ` [PATCH v4 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2016-03-31 20:35       ` [PATCH v4 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++0x rvalue references in gdb Keith Seitz
2016-04-02  8:48         ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-04-05 18:23           ` Pedro Alves
     [not found]             ` <20160406083016.GA31849@gmail.com>
2016-04-12 11:49               ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2016-04-19 15:51                 ` Artemiy Volkov
2016-04-22 11:31                   ` Pedro Alves
2016-06-06 19:22       ` [PATCH v5 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++11 " Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: demangle: implement demangling for rvalue reference typenames Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: valops: add ability to return rvalue reference values from value_ref() Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add rvalue references to overloading resolution Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: convert lvalue reference type check to general reference type check Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: python: support rvalue references in the gdb module Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-20 19:07           ` Pedro Alves
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: testsuite: add rvalue reference tests Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-20 19:04           ` Pedro Alves
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: dwarf2read: support DW_TAG_rvalue_reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: change {lookup,make}_reference_type() API Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: gdbtypes: add definitions for rvalue reference type Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: parse: support " Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-06 19:23         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] [PR gdb/14441] gdb: print: implement correct printing of rvalue reference types and values Artemiy Volkov
2016-06-19 15:08         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] [PR gdb/14441] Support C++11 rvalue references in gdb Artemiy Volkov

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