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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Simon Marchi <simon.marchi@ericsson.com>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] Linux: Skip thread_db thread event reporting if PTRACE_EVENT_CLONE is supported
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:04:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54917F5F.3020005@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5490A306.3060002@ericsson.com>

On 12/16/2014 09:24 PM, Simon Marchi wrote:

>> Before PTRACE_EVENT_CLONE (Linux 2.6), the only way to learn about new
>> threads in the inferior (to attach to them) or to learn about thread
>> exit was to coordinate with the inferior's glibc/runtime, using
>> libthread_db.  That works by putting a breakpoint at a magic address
>> which is called when a new thread is spawned, or when a thread is
>> about to exit.  When that breakpoint is hit, all threads are stopped,
>> and then GDB coordinates with libthread_db to read data structures out
>> of the inferior to learn about what happened.
> 
> That is libthread_db's TD_CREATE event? Could you point out where that is
> done (stopping all the threads)?

When we're using libthread_db, the linux-thread-db.c target is pushed on
top of the target stack.  So a target_wait call ends up in
linux-thread-db.c:thread_db_wait:

static ptid_t
thread_db_wait (struct target_ops *ops,
		ptid_t ptid, struct target_waitstatus *ourstatus,
		int options)
{
...
  ptid = beneath->to_wait (beneath, ptid, ourstatus, options);
...
  if (ourstatus->kind == TARGET_WAITKIND_STOPPED
      && ourstatus->value.sig == GDB_SIGNAL_TRAP)
    /* Check for a thread event.  */
    check_event (ptid);
...
  return ptid;
}

and the beneath->to_wait call ends up in linux_nat_wait -- _that_ is
what stops all threads just before returning to thread_db_wait.

> From the previous discussion with you, I
> was thinking that those breakpoints did not affect execution. I don't find
> any code in linux-thread-db.c that would do such a thing.

I think you're thinking of https://sourceware.org/ml/gdb-patches/2014-12/msg00210.html

What I was saying is that although the TD_DEATH event results in all
threads stopping and then gdb core resuming the target, it's not when the
TD_DEATH event breakpoint is hit that we call delete_thread, so that's
not when mi_thread_exit ends up called.  Instead, after TD_DEATH, the
thread that is exiting actually still exists and is resumed (it still has
a few instructions to run inside glibc/pthread before actually calling
the exit syscall), and then later when the thread actually does the exit
syscall, waitpid returns an WIFEXITED status for it, and gdb _then_ calls
delete_thread, all within linux-nat.c, without stopping all threads.

>> This is exactly the same behavior as when debugging against remote
>> targets / gdbserver.  I actually think that's a good thing (and as
>> such have listed this in the local/remote parity wiki page a while
>> ago), as the printing slows down the inferior.  It's also a
>> distraction to keep bothering the user about short-lived threads that
>> she won't be able to interact with anyway.  Instead, the user (and
>> frontend) will be informed about new threads that currently exist in
>> the program when the program next stops:
> 
> Is this a consequence of the change of algorithm, or did you actively changed
> the behavior?

Both.  :-)  I made GDB do an implicit "info threads" just before
presenting a user-visible stop to the user a while ago.  See the
update_thread_list call in normal_stop, added in git b57bacecd5 -- see
also references to local/remote parity in that commit's log.

And it's a consequence in that stopping linux-thread-db.c from calling
add_thread results in that update_thread_list call finding new and dead
threads then.

> From what I understand, gdb still attaches to the new thread as soon as it spawns
> (when it receives the PTRACE_EVENT_CLONE event), 

Close, with PTRACE_EVENT_CLONE, gdb is automatically attached to the
new clone; the kernel does that for us.

> so it could print the notice when the event happens. 

Right, see the code in linux_handle_extended_wait that does that,
in non-stop mode, only.  I'd like to remove that bit soon enough
though.  I've mentioned before that I regret having added it.

> Not that I mind, but I just want to understand.

Hope I made things a little clearer.

Thanks,
Pedro Alves


  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-17 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-16 16:54 [PATCH 0/5] GNU/Linux, fix attach races/problems Pedro Alves
2014-12-16 16:54 ` [PATCH 3/5] libthread_db: Skip attaching to terminated and joined threads Pedro Alves
2014-12-16 16:54 ` [PATCH 4/5] Linux: Skip thread_db thread event reporting if PTRACE_EVENT_CLONE is supported Pedro Alves
2014-12-16 21:24   ` Simon Marchi
2014-12-17 13:04     ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2014-12-16 16:54 ` [PATCH 2/5] Linux: on attach, attach to lwps listed under /proc/$pid/task/ Pedro Alves
2014-12-16 20:52   ` Simon Marchi
2014-12-17 13:35     ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-16 16:54 ` [PATCH 1/5] libthread_db: debug output should go to gdb_stdlog Pedro Alves
2014-12-17  8:02   ` Yao Qi
2014-12-17 13:45     ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-17 14:09       ` Yao Qi
2014-12-16 17:35 ` [PATCH 5/5] Test attaching to a program that constantly spawns short-lived threads Pedro Alves
2014-12-17 11:10   ` Yao Qi
2014-12-18  0:02     ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-05 19:02       ` Breazeal, Don
2015-01-07 16:17         ` [PATCH] skip "attach" tests when testing against stub-like targets (was: Re: [PATCH 5/5] Test attaching to a program that constantly spawns short-lived threads) Pedro Alves
2015-01-09 11:24           ` [PATCH] skip "attach" tests when testing against stub-like targets Pedro Alves
2015-01-12  4:43             ` [regression/native-gdbserver][buildbot] Python testscases get staled (was: Re: [PATCH] skip "attach" tests when testing against stub-like targets) Sergio Durigan Junior
2015-01-12 11:15               ` [regression/native-gdbserver][buildbot] Python testscases get staled Pedro Alves
2015-01-12 16:55                 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2015-01-12 17:01                   ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-12 17:13                     ` [PATCH] gdb.python/py-prompt.exp: restore GDBFLAGS Pedro Alves
2015-01-09 12:03 ` [PATCH 0/5] GNU/Linux, fix attach races/problems Pedro Alves

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