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From: "Breazeal, Don" <donb@codesourcery.com>
To: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/16 v2] Determine supported extended-remote features
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 23:23:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5446EB04.7010208@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <543E9E09.80009@redhat.com>

On 10/15/2014 9:17 AM, Pedro Alves wrote:
> On 08/21/2014 01:29 AM, Don Breazeal wrote:
>> This patch implements a mechanism for GDB to ask gdbserver what
>> extended-mode features are enabled.
>>
>> The problems that are solved include:
>>
>> 1) A mechanism other than the qSupported RSP packet is needed for
>>    gdbserver to inform GDB about the list of extended mode features that
>>    are supported.
> 
> Sorry, this doesn't really make sense to me.
> 
>>    
>>    In the existing implementation most of the information about
>>    supported gdbserver features is sent to GDB in response to a
>>    qSupported RSP message.  This exchange occurs prior to GDB
>>    sending the "!" packet to enable extended mode.  So as-is this
>>    message doesn't work for features that are dependent on extended-
>>    mode.
> 
> The differences between extended and non-extended modes are very
> few, and I'd rather have fewer -- eventually merge them -- not
> more.
> 
> I don't understand what motivated this.  What's wrong with
> just reporting the features as supported in qSupported, and
> then have GDB decide whether to make use the features or not?
> 
>>    Also, the qSupported exchange is intended to inform GDB about which
>>    packets are supported, and most of the extended mode features do not
>>    have associated packets.  There are some features included in the
>>    qSupported response that do not have associated RSP messages, but the
>>    code comments make it clear that this practice is not acceptable for new
>>    packets.
> 
> Which comments?
> 
>>
>> 2) A mechanism is needed to enable extended mode features when GDB
>>    tells gdbserver to use extended mode.
>>    
>>    The existing implementation checks for ptrace extended events
>>    (just PTRACE_O_TRACELONE) and enables them immediately after checking.
>>    This is done when the first event occurs as the program is loaded, which
>>    can occur before GDB has connected to gdbserver and told it whether or
>>    not to use extended mode.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Pedro Alves
> 
Hi Pedro,
Thanks for looking at this.  I should have made the rationale for
the new qExtendedFeatures packet more clear in my original
submission.  I'll try to answer all of your questions in the
explanation below.

I had started out trying to report the features as
supported/unsupported using qSupported, following the
implementation of PACKET_multiprocess_feature as a model.
I abandoned that approach when I saw these comments in
remote.c_initialize_remote:

        /* Ideally all configs would have a command associated.  Some
           still don't though.  */
          [---snip---]
          case PACKET_multiprocess_feature:
          [---snip---]
            /* Additions to this list need to be well justified:
               pre-existing packets are OK; new packets are not.  */

I interpreted this to mean that the qSupported query was intended
to be used only to enable/disable packets that mapped to commands,
and that defining new packets that represented something else was
discouraged.

In the end, the qExtendedFeatures approach seemed better to me because
 - it didn't violate the directive in the comment above
 - it was less disruptive to existing code, and didn't affect native
 - it could potentially be used to eliminate some special-case code
   that used packets that had no associated command, e.g. the
   multiprocess feature could be implemented using qExtendedFeatures
   instead of PACKET_multiprocess_feature.

Implementing the qSupported approach required:
1) sending "!" before sending qSupported so that gdbserver knew it
   was in extended mode when responding to qSupported

2) splitting nat/linux-ptrace.c:linux_enable_event_reporting into two
   functions, one to check if extended events were supported at
   startup time, and one to enable any supported extended events
   where linux_enable_event_reporting is called today.  This allowed
   gdbserver to know what extended events were supported when
   responding to qSupported.  Note that this affects the native
   implementation.

3) defining a new packet for each of the extended-mode events

In refreshing my memory about this I wrote up some detailed notes on
it.  Let me know if you want to see the gruesome details.

Do you think the qSupported approach is preferable despite the
comment?  Did I misinterpret it?

Thanks
--Don


  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-21 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-07 18:00 [PATCH 00/10] Linux extended-remote fork events Don Breazeal
2014-08-07 18:00 ` [PATCH 03/10] Refactor extended ptrace event status Don Breazeal
2014-08-07 18:00 ` [PATCH 02/10] Refactor follow-fork message printing Don Breazeal
2014-08-07 18:00 ` [PATCH 07/10] Extended-remote arch-specific follow fork Don Breazeal
2014-08-07 18:00 ` [PATCH 05/10] GDBserver clone breakpoint list Don Breazeal
2014-08-07 18:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] Refactor native follow-fork Don Breazeal
2014-08-07 18:00 ` [PATCH 04/10] Enhance extended ptrace event setup Don Breazeal
2014-08-13 17:50   ` Breazeal, Don
2014-08-07 18:00 ` [PATCH 06/10] Extended-remote follow fork Don Breazeal
2014-08-07 18:01 ` [PATCH 10/10] Extended-remote fork event documentation Don Breazeal
     [not found]   ` <83tx5om6zs.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-08-08 15:35     ` Breazeal, Don
2014-08-07 18:01 ` [PATCH 09/10] Extended-remote fork catchpoints Don Breazeal
2014-08-07 18:01 ` [PATCH 08/10] Extended-remote follow vfork Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:29 ` [Patch 00/16 v2] Linux extended-remote fork and exec events Don Breazeal
2014-09-04 20:57   ` Breazeal, Don
2014-10-31 23:29   ` [PATCH 08/16 v3] Extended-remote follow vfork Don Breazeal
2014-10-31 23:29   ` [PATCH 05/16 v3] GDBserver clone breakpoint list Don Breazeal
2014-10-31 23:29   ` [PATCH 06/16 v3] Extended-remote Linux follow fork Don Breazeal
2014-11-13 13:00     ` Pedro Alves
2014-11-13 18:53       ` Breazeal, Don
2014-11-13 18:59         ` Pedro Alves
2014-11-13 19:06           ` Breazeal, Don
2014-12-06  0:31             ` Breazeal, Don
2015-01-23 12:53               ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-23 17:18                 ` Breazeal, Don
     [not found]                 ` <1422222420-25421-1-git-send-email-donb@codesourcery.com>
2015-01-25 21:49                   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] Remote follow vfork Don Breazeal
2015-02-10 16:39                     ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-25 21:49                   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] Arch-specific remote follow fork Don Breazeal
2015-02-10 16:37                     ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-25 21:50                   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] Identify remote fork event support Don Breazeal
2015-02-10 16:34                     ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-25 21:50                   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] Clone remote breakpoints Don Breazeal
2015-01-25 21:58                   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] Remote fork catch Don Breazeal
2015-01-26  0:07                   ` [PATCH v4 3/7 v3] Extended-remote Linux follow fork Don Breazeal
2015-02-10 16:36                     ` Pedro Alves
2015-01-26  0:20                   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] Target remote " Don Breazeal
2015-01-12 22:39             ` [PATCH 06/16 v3] Extended-remote Linux " Don Breazeal
2015-01-12 22:49               ` Breazeal, Don
2014-10-31 23:29   ` [PATCH 07/16 v3] Extended-remote arch-specific " Don Breazeal
2014-10-31 23:29   ` [PATCH 00/16 v3] Linux extended-remote fork and exec events Don Breazeal
2014-11-12 15:54     ` Pedro Alves
2014-11-13 13:41     ` Pedro Alves
2014-11-13 13:51       ` Pedro Alves
2014-11-13 14:58         ` Pedro Alves
2014-11-13 19:14     ` Pedro Alves
2014-10-31 23:29   ` [PATCH 04/16 v3] Determine supported extended-remote features Don Breazeal
2014-11-13 12:59     ` Pedro Alves
2014-11-13 18:28       ` Breazeal, Don
2014-11-13 18:33         ` Pedro Alves
2014-11-13 19:08           ` Pedro Alves
2014-11-13 18:37         ` Breazeal, Don
2014-11-13 18:48           ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-06  0:30             ` Breazeal, Don
2015-01-12 22:36           ` Don Breazeal
2015-01-21 21:02             ` Breazeal, Don
2014-10-31 23:30   ` [PATCH 10/16 v3] Extended-remote fork event documentation Don Breazeal
2014-10-31 23:30   ` [PATCH 13/16 v3] Extended-remote exec catchpoints Don Breazeal
2014-10-31 23:30   ` [PATCH 12/16 v3] Extended-remote follow exec Don Breazeal
2014-10-31 23:30   ` [PATCH 09/16 v3] Extended-remote fork catchpoints Don Breazeal
2014-10-31 23:30   ` [PATCH 11/16 v3] Extended-remote Linux exit events Don Breazeal
2014-11-13 19:18     ` Pedro Alves
2014-10-31 23:31   ` [PATCH 15/16 v3] Extended-remote exec event documentation Don Breazeal
2014-10-31 23:31   ` [PATCH 14/16 v3] Suppress spurious warnings with extended-remote follow exec Don Breazeal
2014-10-31 23:31   ` [PATCH 16/16 v3] Non-stop follow exec tests Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:29 ` [PATCH 01/16 v2] Refactor native follow-fork Don Breazeal
2014-09-05 14:20   ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-05 18:56     ` Breazeal, Don
2014-09-05 20:20       ` Breazeal, Don
2014-09-09 10:57       ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-08 23:54     ` Breazeal, Don
2014-09-09 11:09       ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-12 16:50         ` Breazeal, Don
2014-09-22 15:53           ` Breazeal, Don
2014-09-26 18:13           ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-29 18:08             ` Breazeal, Don
2014-09-30 10:56               ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-30 18:43                 ` Breazeal, Don
2014-08-21  0:30 ` [PATCH 04/16 v2] Determine supported extended-remote features Don Breazeal
2014-10-15 16:17   ` Pedro Alves
2014-10-21 23:23     ` Breazeal, Don [this message]
2014-10-22 21:48       ` Pedro Alves
2014-10-31 23:38         ` Breazeal, Don
2014-08-21  0:30 ` [PATCH 03/16 v2] Refactor ptrace extended event status Don Breazeal
2014-09-09 11:31   ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-19 18:14     ` [pushed] " Breazeal, Don
2014-08-21  0:30 ` [PATCH 02/16 v2] Refactor follow-fork message printing Don Breazeal
2014-09-26 19:52   ` Pedro Alves
2014-09-26 20:14     ` Breazeal, Don
2014-10-03 23:51       ` Breazeal, Don
2014-10-15 16:08       ` Pedro Alves
2014-10-22 23:47         ` Breazeal, Don
2014-10-24 12:35           ` Pedro Alves
2014-10-24 18:45             ` Breazeal, Don
2014-08-21  0:31 ` [PATCH 06/16 v2] Extended-remote Linux follow fork Don Breazeal
2014-09-19 20:57   ` Breazeal, Don
2014-08-21  0:31 ` [PATCH 05/16 v2] GDBserver clone breakpoint list Don Breazeal
2014-10-15 17:40   ` Pedro Alves
2014-10-31 23:44     ` Breazeal, Don
2014-08-21  0:31 ` [PATCH 07/16 v2] Extended-remote arch-specific follow fork Don Breazeal
2014-09-19 21:26   ` Breazeal, Don
2014-08-21  0:32 ` [PATCH 08/16 v2] Extended-remote follow vfork Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:33 ` [PATCH 09/16 v2] Extended-remote fork catchpoints Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:33 ` [PATCH 10/16 v2] Extended-remote fork event documentation Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:33 ` [PATCH 11/16 v2] Extended-remote Linux exit events Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:34 ` [PATCH 13/16 v2] Extended-remote exec catchpoints Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:34 ` [PATCH 12/16 v2] Extended-remote follow exec Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:35 ` [PATCH 14/16 v2] Suppress spurious warnings with extended-remote " Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:36 ` [PATCH 16/16 v2] Non-stop follow exec tests Don Breazeal
2014-08-21  0:36 ` [PATCH 15/16 v2] Extended-remote exec event documentation Don Breazeal

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