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From: Aleksandar Ristovski <aristovski@qnx.com>
To: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] validate binary before use
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 16:08:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <515ECC5C.7040609@qnx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130405114732.GA11684@host2.jankratochvil.net>

On 13-04-05 07:47 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 15:03:05 +0200, Aleksandar Ristovski wrote:
>> The problem is, we could 'remember' build-id that is garbage.
>
> Where/how?
>
> In gdbserver mode gdbserver sends really the build-id of target library.
> Therefore at GDB so_list->build_id - if set - is also always right (for the
> target side).  GDB then uses elf_tdata (so->abfd)->build_id for the comparison
> which is also always right on the GDB side.

Correct.

>
> In solib-svr4 mode GDB uses target_read_memory for an address found from the
> symbol file.  This may read a garbage but that garbage is never stored
> anywhere, it is only local variable in svr4_validate_build_id.  It compares it
> with elf_tdata (so->abfd)->build_id which is always right for the symbol file.

It is stored in the latest patch, in build-id.

>
>
>> I will
>> add checking for GNU\0 and note type, and then the likelihood that
>> somewhat random memory will match namesz, name and type will be very
>> low (though the likelihood has nothing to do with the 160 bits of
>> build-id; build-id is not necessarily 160 bits either).
>
> I do not understand this paragraph after my reply above.

See my comment above.

>
>
>> The rest is about design and duplicated functionality. The
>> functionality of gdbserver where it fetches the list is exactly the
>> same what -nat can do;
>
> I was talking about linux-nat to differentiate it from gdbserver.  But in fact
> the non-gdbserver (local) patchset part is in solib-svr4.c, not linux-nat.c.
> Only that commonly when one uses the local part of solib-svr4.c one is using
> linux-nat.c that time - but one could be using for example sparc-sol2-nat.c
> instead.


What I am suggesting is that linux-nat (and any other *-nat) should 
implement TARGET_OBJECT_LIBRARIES_SVR4.


>
> As discussed before solib-svr4.c is not Linux-specific, therefore it does not
> and cannot read /proc/PID/maps.  Therefore it cannot find the ELF header
> without getting a help from the symbol file (which will give the address
> difference between ELF header and DYNAMIC segment which we know from l_ld).
> At least I have never found a way how to reliably find the ELF header from
> link_map entry without having an associated symbol file.


Exactly, see above.


>
> This is why gdbserver (using linux-low.c which IS Linux specific) situation is
> very different from the non-gdbserver local (using solib-svr4.c which is
> OS-independent) situation.
>
> Sure one could make a Linux-specific local solib-*.c backend but the current
> plan is to drop all (in reality just some) *-nat.c files in the favor of
> always using gdbserver.
>
>
>> in fact this could be the same code;
>
> Really could not, see above.  The local solib-svr4.c mode should not exist but
> it unfortunately still needs to be kept live as gdbserver is not fully
> feature-by-feature matching linux-nat.c:
> 	http://sourceware.org/gdb/wiki/LocalRemoteFeatureParity

I don't think you are following me, but hopefully my comments above 
clarify it.


>
>
>> Not to be neglected is that by doing so, it would be possible to
>> look for the debug binary directly, by using build-id instead of
>> opening objfile and then looking for separate_debug_fie.
>
> Unfortunately could not.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>


  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-05 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-21 20:21 Aleksandar Ristovski
2012-12-24 19:57 ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2012-12-25  7:37   ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-27 20:07     ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2012-12-27 20:59       ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-27 21:03         ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2012-12-27 21:13           ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-27 21:21             ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-01-29 16:15               ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-01-30 19:17                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-01-31 14:23                   ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-02-01  3:06                     ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-02-01 14:31                       ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-02-01 20:43                         ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-02-01 21:32                           ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-02-02 12:25                             ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-02-21 21:00                               ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-02-21 21:07                                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-01-31  6:35                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-01-31 14:24                   ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-02-22 15:09                     ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-02-27 17:42                       ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-02-27 18:14                         ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-03-22 16:58                         ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-03-22 14:45                           ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-03-28 20:56                           ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-04-02 17:25                             ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-04-02 17:32                               ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-04-02 17:45                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-04-02 18:02                                 ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-04-03 18:52                                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-04-04 11:07                                     ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-04-04 13:30                                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-04-04 17:15                                         ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-04-04 18:11                                           ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-04-05 13:03                                           ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-04-05 16:08                                             ` Aleksandar Ristovski [this message]
2013-04-07  6:06                                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-04-08 18:54                                             ` Pedro Alves
2013-04-09  1:15                                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-04-05 15:05                                           ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-04-07 10:24                                             ` Aleksandar Ristovski
2013-04-08 18:32                                             ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-04-07  5:54                                           ` Jan Kratochvil
2013-04-04  3:16                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-12-26 19:24 ` Poenitz Andre
2012-12-27 20:10   ` Aleksandar Ristovski

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