From: Stan Shebs <stanshebs@earthlink.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: 'info os' additions again
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 21:17:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FAADEBE.7010908@earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k40m0xqt.fsf@gnu.org>
On 5/8/12 9:44 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 15:49:30 -0700
>> From: Stan Shebs<stanshebs@earthlink.net>
>>
>> I tend to favor "info os<type> <subtype>..." because it fits the
>> progressive refinement that is a hallmark of GDB commands - the user can
>> remember it as "info, and it's OS-related, but I just want semaphores".
>> The user doesn't have to consider what OS name might be expected, "os"
>> always works to connect to the class of OS-specific info displays.
>>
>> However, we also have an alternate tradition of "info<target>
>> <type>...", including "info dos", "info w32", "info spu", etc. By that
>> tradition, Linux-specific info should be "info linux", and if there were
>> BSD OS info, it would be "info bsd", and so forth. It's simpler to
>> document, because the manual can just have a section for each subcommand
>> that enumerates the subsubcommands that are available. Unfortunately
>> for consistency, we've also had "info os" for several years.
> My personal take of this is that (since quite naturally, most of the
> new features introduced into GDB are Linux-specific), "info os" will
> rapidly become a hodgepodge of Linux-specific commands, with only a
> few supported on other platforms. At that point, "info os" will
> simply be a grossly misleading name, confusing to users of other
> platforms and hard to describe clearly in the documentation.
I suppose that's possible, although when originally scoping this
particular addition, I looked over the list of OS objects and included
everything that seemed of interest to user-space programs. There are
many kind of additional objects available via /proc, but they are
control and systemwide maintenance things that have very little to do
with debugging an app, and I'm not seeing that anyone could make a
compelling argument that in-GDB access would be of value.
>
> FWIW, I never understood the reason why others prefer "info os".
I'm sure a lot of it comes from the same-but-differentness of the Unix
family. I myself have my right hand on a Macbook and left hand on a
Dell running Linux, and so if I'm sticking to Posix API, I want GDB to
work the same on the two.
Stan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-09 21:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-08 22:49 Stan Shebs
2012-05-08 23:55 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-05-09 4:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-05-09 21:17 ` Stan Shebs [this message]
2012-05-10 5:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-05-10 12:22 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-10 18:13 ` Stan Shebs
2012-05-10 18:18 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-10 18:42 ` Stan Shebs
2012-05-10 18:59 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-10 21:07 ` Stan Shebs
2012-05-11 18:30 ` Pedro Alves
2012-05-12 1:33 ` Matt Rice
2012-05-14 14:52 ` Joel Brobecker
2012-05-11 20:25 ` Marc Khouzam
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